Peavy injury opens door for Marquez, slightly

Two unexpectedly late starts in a row mean just the facts today:
*Jake Peavy is just about done for the season, as his latissimus dorsi strain turned into a detached lat after an MRI on Wednesday. I don’t know about you, but the first thing I picture is boiled rib meat falling off the bone. So much for the optimism I felt on Tuesday, as the Sox are usually pretty good about not understating an injury on an initial claim. But this is pretty rare.
*Jeff Marquez will take his place for the next couple of days, giving Tony Pena a chance to rest in case short relief is needed.  Marquez is still the same guy, just healthy. He’s having a decent year in the Cy Young categories (7-4, 4.02 ERA), but he still doesn’t strike anybody out, and his groundball rate is 45.3 percent, putting his “power sinker” in the White Sox Phantom Pitch Hall of Fame with Nick Masset’s 98-m.p.h. heater and Mike MacDougal’s “strike one.”
But he’s well rested, service time is a non-issue, and Daniel Hudson will likely take his place when Peavy’s start rolls around.
*Carlos Quentin was scratched for a second straight day, and will probably miss today’s game against the Angels as well.  This certainly feels like it’s foreshadowing something terrible, given the way Peavy’s injury snuck up.
*Yet with the bad news, Freddy Garcia proved to be a stopper once again (even dealing with three of five errors!), and Brent Lillibridge a capable DH with two RBI.  This season gets stranger and stranger.
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Minor league roundup:

  • Durham 6, Charlotte 4
    • Alejandro De Aza went 2-for-4 with a double and an RBI, striking out once.
    • Stefan Gartrell homered and singled over four at-bats.
    • Brent Morel (playing short) went 1-for-3 with a walk.
    • Jordan Danks struck out three times in four hitless trips to the plate.
    • Jhonny Nunez allowed an unearned run on two hits and two walks over two innings, striking out one.
  • Mississippi 6, Birmingham 2
    • Christian Marrero singled and struck out over five ABs.
    • Justin Greene went 0-for-4; C.J. Retherford 0-for-3 with a walk and two strikeouts.
  • Myrtle Beach 5, Winston-Salem 2
    • Jon Gilmore went 1-for-3 with a walk, two RBI and two strikeouts.
    • Brandon Short singled, walked and struck out.
    • Eduardo Escobar was 1-for-4 with a triple; Jose Martinez was 0-for-4 with two K’s.
    • Stephen Sauer allowed four runs on nine hits over six innings, walking one and striking out four.
  • Kannapolis 7, Greeneville 4
    • Andre Rienzo struck out seven over six innings, allowing four runs on six hits and three walks.
    • Nick Ciolli went 3-for-4 with a homer and four RBI. He struck out once.
    • Kyle Colligan and Brady Shoemaker were both 0-for-4 with two strikeouts.
  • Bristol 3, Kingsport 2
    • Ryan Buch allowed a run on four hits and a walk over five innings, striking out four.
    • Daniel Black hit a homer and struck out twice over four at-bats.
    • Rangel Ravelo was 1-for-3 with a walk, strikeout and two RBI.
    • Tyler Saladino went 1-for-3 with a single and a walk.
  • Great Falls 4, Helena 3 (11 innings)
    • David Holmberg allowed a run on six hits and three walks over six innings, striking out two.
    • Juan Silverio went 2-for-4 with an RBI, walk and strikeout.
    • Ross Wilson had a single over five at-bats.
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Jim Margalus
Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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blacksox56

I’d like to see what Marquez can do, I mean, let’s be honest, he’s the only damn thing we got in return for Swisher, who’s having a monster year…again for the Yankees.

blacksox56

worse case, he has two or three bad starts and Hudson’s up before the deadline, or we try and acquire a No. 3 man like Ted Lilly.

Shinons

Put the best pitcher on the mound, regardless of how we acquired them. I don’t see any logic in starting Marquez ahead of Hudson – Hudson deserves the shot and has the tools to be successful in it, whereas it’s a safe assumption Marquez would be in way over his head. I’d be happy to see Marquez working long-relief just in case we need him to eventually step in to the rotation, but that’s it.

blacksox56

Hudson’s good, but it’s not like he’s blowing guys away in AAA and he was decent last year in 4 relief apperences but the overall body of work didn’t shock and awe anybody either. My thought process behind Marquez is, let him pitch, maybe he drives his stock up a little bit and maybe he can be put in a trade package so that we don’t have to unload Hudson or at the very least guage where he’s at. I think everyone has a good idea where Hudson stands, specially after last year’s call up and I think everyone agrees that he can fill the hole that Peavy left temporarily but not long term. I’m just saying, let Marquez throw and see what he’s got, it can’t hurt. Just a thought…

yinkadoubledare

We’re 1 game out of first. Now is not the time to find out if Marquez has anything or if he’s nothing useful like most of us think and give away several games in the process. With our lineup we can’t afford to be punting any games by experimenting with a guy that we know for a fact is the inferior option to someone else in our system.
Hudson is striking out ten and half per nine innings on the season and has an ERA just north of 2 since the beginning of May. That’s pretty much “blowing guys away in AAA” in my book. It’s not Strasburg, but who is?

larry

it’s usually prudent to look things up before posting a comment. “not like he’s blowing guys away in AAA.” good lord.

bigfun

“let’s be honest, he’s the only damn thing we got in return for Swisher”
Nunez will probably be more valuable in the long run. He strikes out more guys, doesn’t give up as many hits, and is a year younger.

sars

as someone who was driving the jayson nix bandwagon in the pre-season, i’d just like to point out that he now has 5 HRs in his last five games with stellar (albeit limited) defense at 2B. just sayin.

sars

i’m not sure he’ll ever make enough contact to hit any higher than .240, but he’s got plenty of pop in his bat to hit 20 HRs over 550 PAs. if his UZR plays out, he’s at best a 3.5 WAR player. hell, even alexei, with his anemic bat, has been at 2 win player this year.

blacksox56

larry, i looked at their stats. hudson’s a great pitcher, but he’s not going to give you more than 5 innings a game and if you actually look at his game by game breakdown, you’ll see that most of his success came against crappy AAA offenses like Pawtucket, Norfolk and Rochester, i live in Rochester, i see these teams all the time, they suck. not knocking the guy, just simply, he has only a few decent games against quality line ups, like Scranton or Columbus. Even against a decent offense like Buffalo, he had an average line at best. he strikes guys out, that’s fine but his ERA isn’t jumping off the page and his average innings pitched per start isn’t that impressive either. i just don’t see him helping out this season…

blacksox56

so they need to trade for somebody then?

Shinons

Um, no. The ball goes to Hudson. He’s earned it.

bigfun

They need to trade for a DH. Minor League Splits, which adjusts for park/league strength, already projects Dan Hudson as about a league-average pitcher in the majors (extrapolating his 2010 stats to a major league equivalent 4.51 Fielding Independent Pitching score). He’s a useful player right now.
If you want a number that jumps off the page, ignore bad stats like ERA and look at his 3.5 K/BB ratio.

blacksox56

that’s a good point, he does maintain a solid k/bb ratio

blacksox56

nice game today danks

soxicano

I think it makes sense that Marquez is being brought up for possibly start possibly long relief until after All Star Break. It makes no sense to bring up Hudson before All Star break to then rest him during break. Keep him in minors pitching until Peavy’s start rolls around after All Star break. I am sure Hudson will be called up. Though the loss of Peavy is heartbreaking, he wasn’t our best pitcher, though his salary disagrees, and he was having ongoing arm problems that would have troubled us for the rest of the season. Better to have a fresh young healthy pitcher than to have an injured babied veteran who is underwhelming. Freddy, Buehrle and Danks are the big game pitchers for this team with Floyd hot on their heels. The sox have proven they are resurgent and resilient in the face of adversity. Like coach Ozzie said, “No excuses.”

yinkadoubledare

Hudson was pulled from the Futures Game roster. I think that pretty much confirms that he’s taking the ball for the Sox on Sunday in Peavy’s spot.

Shinons

OT: Screw Lebron. Can we put his picture next to the entry for “Narcissist” in the dictionary?

blacksox56

alright…i’m sorry for my ignorance thurs, get marquez out of the big leagues, lol. watched him pitch last night…not, granted its his first time, i see that his inability to strike guys out is going to hurt him in the long run. heard hudson coming up tonight anyways for the start tomorrow right? should be fun to watch…