Brewers 6, White Sox 1: Who did the tailgating?

As far as I could tell, no current or past members of the Chicago White Sox stopped by the Sox Machine/From the 108 tailgate before today’s game in Milwaukee, but they played like they did.

The White Sox totaled just six hits. They also gave up four homers while committing three errors, along with another blunder that the box scores — and the instant replay system — wasn’t quite equipped to handle.

Carlos Rodón gave up a solo shot on his first pitch of the game, so he spent the entire evening trailing. He gave up another solo homer in the second, then watched his defense let him down in multiple ways in the fourth. First, Leury García was late covering first on Luis Urias’ bunt, then couldn’t catch Zack Collins’ throw, which seemed to account for García being late. Collins was charged with the error as runners moved up to second and third, but it was a team effort.

Rodón then had a chance to erase the lead runner from that jam when Rowdy Tellez hit a grounder to first, but José Abreu fired high and wide on his throw home, and the run scored to make it 3-0 Milwaukee. And just when it looked like Rodón was about to escape with no furrther damage in the fourth, he walked in a run.

But those struggles took a backseat to the fifth, when the White Sox loaded the bases on two infield singles by Yoán Moncada and Andrew Vaughn, followed by a bloop single by Brian Goodwin. Up came Leury García, who hit a nubber toward the third-base side. Corbin Burnes tried to get the force at home, but he fired wide and Moncada scored.

Except Moncada never touched home plate. It took a while to learn it, because there was a mound visit, after which Burnes appealed the play by flipping the ball to Manny Pina. When the ruling was safe, the Brewers challenged the play, which was overturned.

Then Tony La Russa came out to challenge the challenge, because it was well beyond the 20 seconds allotted, and La Russa said after the game that teams were supposed to be prohibited from using a mound visit to buy time for challenges. That led to another review, but ultimately the call was upheld.

The White Sox ended up scoring a run when Zack Collins walked with the bases loaded, but pinch-hitting Jake Burger struck out, and Tim Anderson flied out on the first pitch.

Milwaukee added two more runs on Tellez solo shots — one off José Ruiz, and the other off Reynaldo López.

Bullet points:

*Abreu was thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double to end the fourth, as he couldn’t anchor himself to the bag.

*Collins recorded another error when his attempt to cut down Jayce Peterson at second bounced into center field.

Record: 58-40 | Box score | Statcast

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I can’t believe they played the game drunk. Oh well. It is a long season.


The other thing about the play at the plate is that the ump appeared to call Moncada safe. Should Moncada have gone back to touch the bag even though the umpire called him safe?

In any event, the Sox played really poorly. That was some ugly baseball.

Last edited 2 years ago by soxygen
Trooper Galactus

Between that and the excessive time to call for a review, I think that was not handled properly.


No one seems to know the rules on such things. Benetti was rationalizing that the umpire’s call should be final. But per the rules, either it is or it isn’t. Rationalizing either way is sort of pointless. And evidently, in the age of reviews, an umpire’s call in that situation is not final.


The problem with the umpire’s call not being final in that instance is that, as Benetti pointed out, Moncada was not given the opportunity to correct his mistake because the umpire had signaled that there was no mistake to begin with.

I think the umpires just chose to adhere to what actually happened, their mistakes and misinterpretations notwithstanding.


I have seen runners go back to touch home plate before. Was it to avoid this siuation or did they not even know if a call had been made, I couldn’t say. But nothing prevents it

Last edited 2 years ago by metasox

(edit: added to my previous post). And I am thinking a reverse situation could also apply. Runner trying to avoid the tag slides past the plate, initially called out but the tag was missed, runner needs to make sure to reach back to touch the plate in order for a review to determine both the tag was missed and the run counts

Last edited 2 years ago by metasox

What’s the official scoring on the play? 1-2-1-3-1-2?


The Sox had a couple good games last weekend, but are probably not capable of playing great baseball consistently until Eloy, Robert, and Grandal are back. An addition or two to the bullpen needed too.


I found it interesting Lopez pitched two days in a row. Circumstances were such that it made sense. But the fact the Sox see him able to do that makes me wonder if he would be considered for more work


So far he’s been used in relief only when the Sox are down 5-6 runs. I hope there aren’t too many situations that would give him more work.


The question is whether the org could see a bigger role in the future


On a positive note, Kopech and Liam should be well rested.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

The first visit in 27 years by a first place White Sox team to Milwaukee has left something to be desired to this point


Lack of clutch hitting combined with playing teams that are actually starting major league caliber pitchers is going to make for a tough second half for this team.


Getting 1/3 of their lineup back in Eloy, Robert, Grandal should help, starting with Eloy tomorrow.

It’s how they address their bullpen that is the key to what they do in October.