White Sox announce Chris Getz as GM because they already know him
The White Sox are going to officially introduce Chris Getz as the new senior vice president/general manager at 3:30 p.m. CT this afternoon, but they opened the coronation with a press release that tells you everything you need to know about Jerry Reinsdorf’s priorities.
“Chris brings a wealth of knowledge and experience within our organization to this role,” said White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf. “Most importantly, he knows our players, both at the major league level and in our system, knows our staff and is familiar with all aspects of our baseball operations department.
“Chris has impressed me greatly over the past seven years,” Reinsdorf said. “In our conversations together this season, I have become energized by his vision, approach and sense of what this organization needs to become competitive again. With his existing knowledge of the organization, top to bottom, I believe his leadership will provide us with the quickest path forward to our goal, a consistently successful baseball team that competes and plays the game the right way. He will re-energize this organization.”
It was nice of Reinsdorf to immediately eliminate all benefit of the doubt for Getz. This isn’t to say that Getz won’t represent an improvement over Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn. He might be good for a while, or he might get incredibly lucky once or twice and achieve the same thing.
But Reinsdorf turned the pretext of the entire idea of a “search” into the marquee, and that’s what so depressing.
“wealth of knowledge and experience within our organization”
“is familiar with all aspects of our baseball operations department”
If those were the requirements, then Getz is the only guy who could get the White Sox GM job. The problem is that the White Sox GM job is the only GM job Getz could get. He has seven years of experience … for a terrible organization. One of the reasons the organizational is terrible is that they received some of the league’s worst returns from Getz’s department. If Reinsdorf is “impressed greatly” by Getz, it’s not for baseball reasons. Reinsdorf can’t point to anything Getz has done, so he chooses to emphasize what Getz might do. That’s what Pedro Grifol does by emphasizing the genesis of the origin of the building of the foundation of a culture, so you can understand why they get along so famously.
I pretty much assumed Getz was the guy since Bob Nightengale reported it, because I learned my lesson about hoping for better from Reinsdorf after the hiring of Tony La Russa. But the sliver of my brain allowed to maintain an alternative outcome imagined a scenario where Getz pushed for an overthrow, not realizing that he would be nearly as unpopular as Williams and Hahn once people had time and reason to examine his record, rather than lumping him in with the rest of the thoroughly broken system.
We do get that experience, but the hire still happened, and Sox fans are left to hope that Getz is the rare mutineer who actually knows what he’s doing, and not just the warped product of a demented chain of command who schemed his way to power, and the ship is a secondary concern. That his department oversaw the hirings and firings of Omar Vizquel and Wes Helms don’t suggest that he was the reasonable man in an unreasonable world. He’s more likely just a 40-year-old face for an 87-year-old set of problems.
Thanks Jerry
This isn’t just mismanagement, but willful nihilistic mismanagement. Jerry is a Dickensian villain. Scrooge is too on the nose, plus Scrooge actually changed. Jerry is more like the teacher Gradgrind, taking the joy out of everything. A truly miserable person, bitter & resentful at other owners for breaking with him. He has no sense of purpose or any sense of the common good. HIs legacy is nihilistic revenge. Poor guy. Rich as hell and full of resentment.
I read Hard Times decades ago but I remember Gradgrind recognizing the error of his ways by the end of the book. I think Jerry is more irredeemable than most of the Dickens’ villains. At least in Dickens, the villains who don’t change meet horrible ends.
I do like the idea of giving Jerry a Dickensian name…like Hopesmash? Dashhope?
WealthHorde
When Reinsdorf and Einhorn first bought the club, they were ridiculed by local sportswriters as out-of-town guys who didn’t know Chicago. We have to credit Reinsdorf for learning something from this city’s culture.
well I commented on another post, but honestly this is too exhausting to care about anymore. the ineptitude is truly a reflection of many macro big picture things wrong in the world and this team is so unlikable and untrustworthy that caring should be minimal now. There is nothing Getz can sell that I as a fan will buy because the track record is beyond anything words can deduce for hope. He failed at overcoming the adversity of dysfunction that isn’t changing with the White Sox under Jerry. No prospects he mentioned over the years have actually panned out in the majors. In fact the hand picked manager he seemed to be involved with basically uses Colas as an easy punching bag but refuses to say anything about the “established” core who are also garbage right now. The guys Getz was entrusted to develop into contributors on the team. Very sad day for White Sox fans because this move shows nothing will change until Jerry is gone, and sadly that may be far down the road. So in the meantime, go Bears!
Things will get better- after Jerry’s funeral.
The parade Hahn talked about, surely?
Not true. Only if there is a completely new ownership group.
I know there’s no way Jerry’s reading this, no chance at all. BUT…Jerry, if you are–
I want you to know you are one of the biggest f***ing losers of all time. If you hadn’t received the luckiest gift in the history of sports when Jordan fell to 3 in the draft, you’d have one of the worst (if not THE worst) records in all of sports. Cower behind the curtain of good business all you want (and even that’s arguable, given how much money you’ve left on the table via years of losing), but you are a loser and everyone knows it.
You have no sense of community; no idea what it means to take on the responsibility of owning something that is so profoundly meaningful to so many people. You use this thing that belongs to us–the fans, the players, the community–you use it as your personal piggy bank, handing out jobs to loyalists and friends–who I’m willing to bet (unless they’re reviled humans like LaRussa) likely hate your guts in private–constantly surrendering even the slightest modicum of public good for your own private interests. That’s how pathetic you are–you have to hand out job after job and literally pay people to keep them around.
You’re a loser, Jerry, and we all know that you don’t have much time left, so know this is your legacy: A sad, insular, nepotistic, miserly loser.
I think your characterization/assessment of Jerry is far too charitable.
Ha! Well, I’m saving the rest for the biography I’m writing on him. It’s really just a 300 page rant ; )
Outstanding take. Thank you for speaking for all of us.
IF you want to get real mad too, listen to the clips available of Chris Getz talking about prospects…its truly demoralizing to think this is the guy given the keys to the team. I expect more of the same, and a lot of L’s with maybe a blip 83 win team because the Ex Royals somehow provide relief for a season. Oh and that whole Vizquel/Helms thing he was in charge of and didnt take any accountability for.
I was not high on Colas coming into the season, especially short but even long term, and wanted them to sign anyone, even a 1 WAR veteran OF. But even I’ve been astounded by how terrible he’s been. And to think in internal conversations about adding a RF, the line from Getz was “Oh yeah, he’s ready, he’s going to be great!”.
They did sign an exactly 1 WAR veteran in Victor Reyes. All he’s done is bat .287 with 18 homers and 77 RBIs at AAA. Has not been hurt for even one day to my knowledge and he’s never even been put on the 40 man. Mind boggling and a pretty rotten thing to do to the guy.
If they were in contention we probably would have seen him, but they aren’t. He has no place on this team in this season. He’s a 28 year old guy having a good AAA season. If anyone else wanted him, he’d be gone.
Yes, if he had value, someone would have come calling
He has a 98wRC+ at Charlotte. That’s no worse than other outfielders who have been called up, but they clearly like the other guys’ defense better.
Yep AZ, Reyes could have done more for improving the RF position than Colas this year. All Coals has shown is that he’s not ready to play in the majors.
Yeah, I’m just ready for the force fed “well he was working under dysfunction” excuses to shield him in the marketing. He was part of the dysfunction and failed to overcome and provide talent to the team in his role.
Even the Hahn excuses are getting recycled.
JR didn’t draft Jordan, MJ was on the team when he bought it in ’85. If JR was in charge, I’m sure we would be talking about the Melvin Turpin Bulls of the 80’s in a different light.
Oh, that’s right! So JR’s even worse!
I’m in the somewhat the same boat. I had no familial sports loyalties handed down to me. I started paying more attention to baseball as a kid in the late 80s. My best friend’s family were huge baseball fans, especially for the Cubs. But I became a Sox fan when Frank Thomas was a rookie. But I’ve mainly not been a Cubs hater, except for a bit when they started embracing domestic violence. I haven’t watched a minute of the Sox in months, but I turned on the Cubs yesterday. I might start doing more of that.
Well said. The White Sox franchise is a disgrace to the great city of Chicago.
Mad scientist: Well that last two headed monster sucked.
Assistant: Yeah.
Mad scientist: But we’ll build a new one with the same DNA!
Assistant: :/
Only 1 head this time!. (Or at least 1 less than last time)
Vastly underrated
Never go full white sox.
It is time to crack open each other’s heads and feast on the goo inside.
It’s unreal how insulated from his own incompetence Jerry is that he can do something so fan genocidal without even bothering to mask the way he’s doing it.
The white sox will continue to get what they deserve, and we’ll just have to laugh at them.
Insanity is defined as continuously doing the same thing over and over again hoping for an alternate outcome. Jerry Reindorf has just proved that he is insane.
Not insane… incestuous.
It wouldn’t be Jerry if he didn’t hire the one single solidary person on the planet he shouldn’t hire for a given position.
ie: Getz and LaRussa
Sell. The. Team.
Why does J continue to own the Sox? Is his goal only to not lose $ for his investors? Is he in it for the ego boost of owning a major league franchise in a world class city? He is not “in it to win it”, clearly. What satisfaction exactly does J get from being COB of our beloved White Sox?
I am starting to fear it is to saddle us with another bad stadium plan. How many people get to say they did that twice?
The only reason that I can think of for Jerry’s desire to own the team must have something to do with taxes. Or, he just likes making baseball fans miserable.
Hello White Sox fans. I’ve been one since Al Lopez was their manager. From the early 1950’s through 1967 only the Yankees and Dodgers won more regular season games. It was during this time the Sox settled into my heart and have been there ever since. Well, it’s time to say goodbye. It’s hard to love something that doesn’t love you back. We all need to realize that we’ve been used, cheated on, lied to, however you want to put it. I love baseball and have decided to start dating a baseball team from the Northside of town. They seem interested in winning. They play hard everyday. Their fans seem to enjoy their team. And, they’re from Chicago. If I’ve been able to fall in love with 2 or 3 women over the course of my life, why not try a different baseball team.
I’m pretty much there. But I could never be a fan of the Cubs.
I couldn’t either. If I ever stopped watching the Sox I’d move on to some other franchise. As a kid the Expos were my NL team, but now that they’re in Washington they just don’t do anything for me.
This year, I have watched 3 baseball games all year- all Sox games. I have literally not watched any non-Sox game this season. Now I have followed this season very closely- but have just not spent any time in front of the TV watching. I just don’t have one non-Sox team that I am really rooting for. Of all the teams still in contention, I would like to see any of the Mariners, Orioles, Rangers or Reds win the WS. But I don’t think I will ever have a favorite team besides the White Sox. I would assume most of my summers in the future will be spent like this one. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
I too don’t have another team, but sadly I feel like an orphan fan at this point in time. And the team hasn’t even moved yet lol the alienating of die hard fans today is a turning point, despite the rumors since the firings last week
You just created a new word for us all. ORFAN. We are Sox orfans.
I could be a fan of the cubs but I look at the crowd (and I grew up in Wilmette) and I’m just not a cubs fan. Plus, listening to their broadcasts, they still aren’t interesting or entertaining.
I’m sticking it out because I want to able to say I outlasted Jerry Reinsdorf. We are near the end of his reign; I might as well stay and see if the new owner is any good.
Yes, same here.
Yep. This is our community, fused together by spite and determination.
I’ve pretty much quit this team. For the first non-pandemic year in 30 years, I haven’t attended a single game. I’ve watched my 10 innings of baseball all year. Reading this site is about the only way I consume any baseball content. With the Getz hire, I don’t see anything changing next year.
If you supported the Sox in ’69 and ’70 and after Harrelson let LaRussa go, I don’t see how this team is any worse. I’m not sure if Reinsdorf is worse than John Allyn. And if you think the Cubs are interested in winning and play hard, what were they doing in the ’60s?
I was recently telling a younger fan (guy in his 40’s) about that era with playing home games in Milwaukee, broadcasting games on low wattage WTAQ AM 1370, losing 106 games in 1970 while drawing an average of 6K fans per game,…
He said he was sure right now is worse. I think he suffers from recency bias.
I don’t know why you’d expect more of an 87 year old man of any status. My grandmother is about 85 and she doesn’t know what day it is.
I think when you get to be those ages you don’t care what day it is!
Does she have 2 billion dollars lying around? Based only on your description, I’d take my chances with her over Jerry.
Mr. Reinsdorf, I have two questions, if I may. 1) In your judgement, what specific part(s) of building a successful baseball team did Williams and Hahn fail to accomplish effectively? 2) How does the hiring of Chris Getz address those deficiencies?
You’re going to send him into a panic attack with questions like those.
He actually said they have the “core” in place to compete next yr (though he did acknowledge compete in the AL Central). I want to know what team he has been watching.
Hey, at least Getz had a front row seat to see first hand how not to do things. #GlassHalfFull
But this is great news; I really didn’t want anyone involved with this dysfunctional team to be uncomfortable, or think anything might change.
So, the question is, who is going to the games next year?
Just enough people to insure that the status quo will be maintained.
Not me. I went to one game for free and bought one game ticket before full collapse, but I’m done.
In other news that will definitely make White Sox fans feel good….
Good for them. I hope they catch the Twins. Or I guess, I hope the Twins fall down to them.
They have 5% playoff odds… Are they just doing this to try to embarrass the White Sox and Angels, 2 of the top-5 clown organizations in the sport?
I’m sure the Guardian’s did that to block the Twinkies from signing them.
Yawn. I’m glad that I recently bought my first Cubs hat since the 1970’s.
Eww.
Not healthy dude, not healthy!
I’d be afraid if I put on a Cubs hat that my dad would rise from the dead and tear my head off my neck.
My dad was a Bears season ticket holder, retired to WI and became a Packers fan. It’s not just flouride in the water. (PS. my wife, a GB native, loved showing me the Packers clothing she would gift him)
My dad was a huge Chicago Cardinals fan who said the NFL was dead to him when they left for St. Louis and meant it.
It’s kind of hilarious that Giolito and Lopez are still together, even with independent waiver claims possible for each. I fully expect them to sell themselves as a package deal in free agency.
It was nice of Cleveland not to split them up
I like that. It reminds me of how, in Don Cooper’s last season, we’d often see Rey Lo come off the mound and then immediately go up to Giolito (who speaks Spanish) and start talking through what went wrong on the mound. It always made me like both of them more to see that they were friends and genuinely cared for each other.
Those two always come in a single package.
Everything about this hiring is indefensible.
I’m trying to be an optimist after stewing over this for days. The best thing the Sox have for them is membership in the AL Central. Competitiveness is never that far away. There’s a chance Getz will be really good at this, or the more likely path to success, lucky.
Maybe the Sox catch some of the breaks that have been lacking the last few years, starting with the key players they need to excel actually doing so consistently and at the same time. A couple Cueto like lottery tickets work out. Depth call ups perform adequately for short periods. Basically, they need the stars to align with multiple important players having career years and no one cratering like Moncada. That happens and he’ll look competent.
Took a five minute pause to be sad about this. Then went back to laughing at the sheer scale of fan murdering ineptitude that is the Sox.
Anyone saying they’re “forced” to hope for the best, please realise you aren’t. You’re choosing to.
Did Clevinger get claimed?
Nope.
He cleared waivers, as did Carlos Carrasco.
I just love the Kansas City connection. But even the Bears get their KC people from the champion Chiefs, not the perpetually lousy Royals. Can’t wait for Ned Yost to be named Special Assistant. Maybe Buddy Bell can be convinced to make a triumphant return. And how about Mark Teahan for Farm Director (he is an ex-Sox, after all).
The template for positive change was set by, of all people, Stu Holcomb in 1970. With the season careening towards record-setting losses, he realized that the organization was bankrupt of talent and expertise and reached out to the California Angels/Hawaii Islanders to grab the 1-2 combination of Chuk Tanner and Roland Hemond to change the Sox fortunes. THAT is the way you change an organizational culture.
Mike Matheny is available.
Don Wakamatsu is also available, Dale Sveum, Dave Eiland..just list off former Royals coaches that are currently looking for work and they could be White Sox employees soon enough
George Brett has Jerry’s ear, right?
Bring George in as hitting coach.
Wakamatsu would be acceptable. His first name is ‘Wilbur’ so he’s either got a killer knuckleball or a horse that can really work the phones.
I logged in to make the exact comment regarding Hemond / Tanner, so thanks MA2 for bringing it up. I was going to include MVP Dick Allen as the by-product of those hirings.
Ned Yost won a championship in KC and was 1 swing away from a second.
Lest we forget that the champion Chiefs also gave us Matt Nagy. If you put him and Grifol together you’d get a ball of confusion.
The thing about Nagy is that he is fine if he doesn’t haven’t to do anything. Andy Reid runs the offense in KC. Not sure what Nagy does. And he certainly proved he has no idea how to run an offense by himself.
Nagy is a glorified clip board holder and that’s it. And having Mahomes as your QB does NOT make you an offensive genius. It makes you tremendously lucky.
This is the biggest Fuck You in a decade+ of Fuck Yous.
Sooooooooooo, I see nothing about Dayton Moore. Will we find out at the 3:30 presser or are they just letting Getz run with it?
Well I decided I’m going to give him an open minded hearing with this presser. But as soon as it devolves into happy talking cliches and wide eyed happy to have the job speak, I’m out.
So Make your case Chris, I’m listening.
If he says “quite frankly”….
what if it’s followed by “my dear”…and then followed by “I don’t give a danm”?
or any mention of parades…
in the list of organization-wide run differentials , the Nationals are 28th at -380. The A’s are 29th at -586. The White Sox are 30th at -701. That’s 328 runs worse than the 3rd worst organization in baseball. So, naturally our owner hires the guy most reponsible for that to be the new GM. You, Jerry, are stupid, lazy, cheap, arrogant, heartless…
I feel the newsdrop of hiring Dayton Moore, and Clevinger clearing waivers, is being kept under wraps so they can announce it this evening along with the signing of Luke Heimlich.
My take…
I am going to give Chris Getz a chance to prove many White Sox fans, including me, wrong. His track record in the minors is bad, but I don’t know how much was his doing and how much was because the metastatic cancer the whole organization under RH and KW suffered.
Many mentioned the Wes Helms and Vizquel fiasco as “his doing”. I think we don’t really know details. Sure, it happened under Getz supervision, but I have read some fans attributing to Getz that Vizquel is a horrible person. Getz hired an established star, and sometimes it is not easy to handle a hot potato like that. Maybe Getz, himself, would say today that he would handle it differently.
Could Getz have handled the Vizquel and Helms situation better? Probably, and he should have handled it better, but I am not going to crucify him right now. That’s just too dour. I am tired of it. I want to believe, even for a small moment, that the White Sox will be properly managed by an adult that has more baseball acument than his predecessor (not a high bar here). Getz is gonna have decision making power now. No RH and no KW. Let’s see what he can do with that.
This is exactly why I don’t trust his promotion. The easy marketing shield is to blame his predecessors however, if he was just a dude collecting a pay check waiting it out to be GM eventually, then he did not make great use of his time as he could not showcase the ability to overcome adversity to produce results in player development. Something that is a staple of the White Sox, failure to overcome adversity. Appreciate multiple perspectives and think fans should fan how they want, but I just cant stomach a 5 year timeframe of being reminded that the only reason the team sucks is because Rick/Kenny messed it up so bad and not every single person affiliated with the franchise failing.
Yeah, we all may as well resign ourselves that it is what it is. At least we got Clevinger back!
That no team would take Clevinger shows that he got a wildly over-market contract from Hahn or Williams, plus all that other stuff no FO wants to take on.
If the $12M was distributed evenly across this year he might’ve been claimed. The fact that they were short-sighted and pushed $4M to next year via the buyout (which confirms that Clevinger is getting that buyout regardless of who triggers the buyout) was the primary reason he didn’t get claimed. No one is paying $5.6M for 6-7 starts unless it’s Gerrit Cole.
The $4 mil on the option was most definitely.
Yes but the Sox got their best pitcher back! Unless Getz cuts him.
The team is losing its core fan base. Getz is going to have to earn credibility for himself from the fans, and restore credibility to the Sox, because right now the Sox have none and the fans don’t trust the team at all.
White sox business is always about creating deniability.
Don’t fall for it. They’re all bad at their jobs.
Jim/Josh, is there a way the Getz presser can be live in the Machine so we can all comment the same time it’s going on?
I wonder if Jerry will take any questions whatsoever when he introduces him to the press,
Is he even going to be there or was the press release it?
Jerry communicate with the fans? No way Jose.
No desire to watch that presser, to each their own, but I heard Grifol and thought it was fine enough, said the right things and proceeded to be the opposite and awful at everything he was touted to be. Communication is bad, fundamentals are bad, baseball IQ is bad, the “culture”, which btw has been grossly used to cover up larger issues imo, has gotten worse under him…overall nothing Getz says matters because it’ll be rehearsed and lack any accountability for the job he has done thus far.
You wouldn’t have heard anything over Pedro’s ass smouching.
But that beats the purpose of Sox Machine. They do all the watching so we don’t have to.
Mystery Science Theater-style? That works for cheap, incompetent productions.
For me, it isn’t even so much that it’s Getz. It’s that they absolutely had no intention of giving this job it’s due process – seeking out candidates, interviewing, and evaluating – all after the last out of the World Series. Hire the president, he hires the GM, and he hires his manager and coaches. Not this organization…. I root for them to succeed, but I don’t expect this to improve.
Well said.
They refuse to even try to improve their process.
Even if you intend to give the job to Getz, you can learn things from interviewing outsiders. “Specifically, how will you go about strengthening this organization?” You listen and learn. Perhaps something you hear will inform something you do later.
They probably announced this sooner than they wanted to but decided to announce it now to take attention away from the belly fat incident, which they determined was more detrimental to the organization than an incompetent hiring, which is a regular occurrence there.
JR worried some organization was going jump in and pluck him up for their top job seeing all the success the new lap dog had in his minor league tenure …..how can an owner be so utterly tone deaf and blind to what has gone on and will for the foreseeable future
Questions for Getz: Do you have total control to hire and fire people as you see fit, regardless of contracts? Do you have control over the baseball operations budget? Do you have the guts to fire people you’ve worked with for years but aren’t up to the task? Do you have plans to hire people from other teams? What are you going to do to get better players on the field? Why do you deserve to be the GM?
Questions that will be asked but will just waste time because they are questions no one is going to answer honestly: Are you going to fire Grifol? What went wrong with the White Sox? What did you learn under Hahn/Williams?
Questions that should be asked because SoxMachine wants to know: Will Boston stay as 1B coach? Will there be a SoxFest in January 2024?
Questions that should be asked because we haven’t heard the answer: Who shot the woman last Friday night?
I agree with all those questions, but ultimately am resigned to nothing he says matters because it will be same old white sox anyways. They are already loading up the “Chris couldn’t do everything he wanted because of previous leadership” talking points with anyone associated to the team speaking. End of the day, it is a wait out time until the real change happens.
Reinsdorf says that Grifol’s return is “Chris’s call” 👀
Yeah okay.
As my cub fan will tell me, the Sox should have a SuxFest. He is no longer my friend.
Should have read cub fan friend. After today the Greek wine is going to go down good tonight!
You probably should’ve dropped the Sox.
Dont worry im sure the 3rd rebuild Getz gets a try at will be the one that works out for him. (Cause we all know Jerry will hang on and own the team till hes 110 or something.)
Reinsdorf just met with a few reporters in his office. Tweets are spilling out; this one had me snort.
The key bit of bad news.
So better to have one who has no clue whether he is comfortable or not….
Bruce should have asked him Why it would take James Click a year to get comfortable on the job. He has already been a GM before.
James Click also wouldn’t agree to be the lowest paid GM by 50%.
Never going to happen. Levine is Reinsdorf Stooge.
Why is no one asking if Grifol is safe. There is no way he should be.
Chris is inferring that Grifol is safe. He’s stated half a dozen times during this conference that he’s “going to sit down with Pedro” and go through everything. This whole thing is surreal.
Well, he confirmed it, so next season is already over.
The HR intern went back to school. Getz already has a security badge. Jerry is not letting unfamiliar faces inside his office. What is the big deal. Why are we still talking about this. One fancy executive is as good as another. This has been another lesson in White Sox Business.
Sad… but SO TRUE.
But…”getting comfortable on the job” IS one of the biggest problems in this organization.
Lazy fucks.
My apologies for the expletive. I usually save that language for Daryl Boston.
We have all seen this TV show before…. it was called “Every One Hates Chris”. Sorry but I cannot watch it again. I am done.
August 31st, 2023… the day White Sox baseball offically died.
They started singing….
Bye bye miss American pie
Drove my Chevy to Charlotte but the pipeline was dry
And the good old boys were drinking $15 high lifes
Singing why won’t Jerry sell or die…. why won’t Jerry sell or die?
That made me belly laugh… thank you…
Got my popcorn and beer start the show
Oh my God
Branch Rickey was actually on the list Jerry compiled.
Branch Rickey would probably have been better.
Reinsdorf to Sox Fans: Drop Dead
I’m glad the press is focused on asking Chris about the shooting and not baseball and the things he’s actually in charge of.
Well, there it is. Grifol is coming back. Crap.
Yep. Next season is lost.
Yeah, a new manager would really fix that this is going to be a turd level roster for the rest of this decade.
They needed to hire somebody other than Getz. They didn’t. It is over until Jerry dies or sells.
All right, that’s all I needed to hear- Chris just said Pedro will be back next year. I’m out.
Giving slow hook the slow hook.
I don’t know if anyone was listening to Jerry’s press appearance (they were playing it in its entirety on the Score), but we are DOOMED. Every sentence uttered by Jerry was worse than the one prior. Any thought that Jerry criticism over the past few years has been hyperbolic is being shot down by the man himself today.
He had the nerve to compare Roland Hemond unfavorably to Getz. FJR.
I hate this organization so much.
Was it just me seeing it or did Getz look pretty uncomfortable and robotic with his answers?
I agree. Every answer was short- he didn’t really offer any interesting bits of information. It’s almost like he had a 1-2 sentence response prepared for each question. This looks just as bad as we thought.
Colossally unimpressive.
And Jerry is just as slimy and disingenuous as he was 43 years ago.
Here’s the good news. Jerry is really old.
That’s what I saw as well. I think he was robotic because he had nothing of substance to say. Clearly has no plan or specifics. Frankly I could have given all of the answers he gave ( and I know next to nothing about how to operate a team) because they were so generic and meaningless. We are so screwed that I won’t be using “ we” anymore when I reference the WS. Shingo Takatsu is managing the Yakult Swallows of the Japanese League. I’d rather follow them.
Mark, if you know next to nothing about how operate a baseball team then you are next in line for the GM job. Congrats!
Well, to be fair, he didn’t even get to practice by having to do a job interview.
5 1/2 months until spring training!
6 1/2 months until the Sox are hopelessly out of contention.
No, they were out of contention next year when Getz said Grifol will be back.
Getz kept referencing how we play in the AL Central when pressed on how he would get the Sox back to competing. Very telling.
Jerry constantly allows his FO to half-ass it and then he’ll just have them reassure us that we’re in the AL Central and it doesn’t require all that much effort to compete.
Amazing how much difficulty the Sox have had competing in the Central if it’s as easy as they’re trying to suggest.
Realignment or conference standings playoffs would murder any chance of a Reinsdorf team backing into the playoffs.
Every team in the division can say the same damn thing. And it’s been that way for several years. With worse results from this organization.
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Very close to a white sox haiku.
Chris Getz promoted
Sox Sadness everlasting
Sell the team Jerry
Yeah, I think all of our fears have been realized in the last half hour. This organization will not change at all. I can’t imagine even watching one game next year.
Was prepared with the disappointing announcement of Getz as GM by the “rumors” floated last week. Let’s see what kind of decisions Getz makes over the next few months as if the White Sox are to make any sort of improvement, personnel must dramatically change at all organizational levels ASAP.
But he’s already said Grifol will be back. That just cannot happen if they expect to be competitive next year.
So Jerry didnt interview anyone cause he made his own little list, and already knew everyone on the list so thus he had to just hire Getz? Hmm solid logic.
Jerry has no idea why people think TLR was a bad hire cause they won the division in 2021 and he was just suffering through bad health in 2022 … lol man
Sox are gonna compete next year but dont worry no chance they sign ohtani or any other pitcher who would demand a long contract.
Getz is different then rick and kenny cause he played (pretty sure that makes him the same as kenny) and a bunch of nonsense about he knows who the good and bad people are.
Getz was the right pick cause after 7 years on the job he knows everyone in the organization…. oh well gee thats great. Does he know everyone top to bottom in the other 29 teams organizations cause thats pretty important as GM?
No one else could have come in and got this process started quickly cause they would spend all year learning who they have inside this organization… hmm has any gm ever come into a situation and made it better ?
Grifol is back cause “continuity” cause nothing is more important then a team who massively underachieved and is gonna lose 100 games then having that. Also the opening day 25 man roster in 2023 vs what it will be in 2024 might be 70 to 80% different but something something continuity lol
I mean my expectations for the press conferences today were low but holy fuck!!!!!!
He really, really seems utterly clueless. But Jerry is reenergized! 110 losses next year? I think they can do it.
Jerry has always been supportive, when we go to him and say we need to do this or that, he says you can do either this or that, and that’s what we do.
So we are bringing Pedro back because continuity is important and so player can just focus on the game and not have to worry about what is happening in the game.
Gotta wait for Kansas city to develop another quality candidate.
Now the we have a single decision maker, i am going to bring in lots of other to help me decide…
Pedro has had to wear a lot of hats this year….what? WTF is that?
Btw Roke, I’m just being lazy and putting things under your comment but I don’t think we disagree…yet.
I think we all agree on here. Unfortunately, we all agree the Sox are screwed.
I’m happy with the players we have, nothing to change there!
Dude looked like the proverbial deer in the headlights.
Wow. That is really bad. Reminiscent of the Bulls saying they didn’t trade for anyone at the trade deadline because they thought a midseason pickup would have a hard time integrating into the locker room. Except here they’re talking about a GM.
Jerry says the Sox will spend in FA, then laughs and says it won’t be for Shohei Ohtani or 10 year contracts for pitchers.
So, scout that relief market guys! Jerry’s opening the pocketbook!
Three words… Premier. Relief. Pitching.