BREAKING: White Sox and Yoan Moncada agree on extension
Yoan Moncada (Carl Skanberg)
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic just reported that the White Sox and Yoan Moncada are in agreement on a five-year extension, with club option:
James Fox of FutureSox first reported talks of an extension last week:
While the amount isn’t yet known, yet another Rick Hahn extension helps to keep the Sox young core together for additional future seasons.
[UPDATE]
Bob Nightengale reports a $70 million guarantee, with Rosenthal confirming, the club option would bring the total to $90 million:
…And Jeff Passan with the full monetary details:
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It just gets better.
Excellent news..
Outside of RF, the Sox now have multi-year certainty at every offensive position in the lineup (assuming Madrigal and Vaughn take over at 2B and whatever 1B/DH position isn’t Abreu’s in the near future).
Without looking at other comparable extensions, these numbers seem low, right?
This seems like it would be an absolute bargain if Moncada continues to put up numbers like he did last year.
Yoan Moncada is the one player on the 2020 Sox I could see putting up a 7.5 WAR. If he plays 150 games, I would not be surprised to see him post a .950/1.000 OPS with excellent defense and get in the conversation for AL MVP.
You’re absolutely right, asinwreck. This is such a good deal for the Sox. Now they need to parlay that cost certainty into making a huge signing next year to cap it off.
And this with Yoan having already banked life-changing money.
Yes. Quite. Passan has a detail on the structure of the option:
Bregman signed 100/5 last year to cover the same years of control/one year of free agency. Moncada didn’t have the same resume as Bregman at this point, but still 65/5 plus a team option is a great deal for the team.
That was a garbage can inflated resume though.
Your saying Oscar the Grouch wrote his resume? I did not know that.
I’d say its about right. Bregman is probably our best comp. he got more money, but also was better/had more certainty at that point.
I mean, compare their stats at the time of signing:
Bregman – 24 years old, .282/.366/.500, 103 2B, 9 3B, 58 HR, 208 RBI, 29 SB, 9 CS, 136 OPS+, 12.5 bWAR in 1548 PAs (3 seasons)
Moncada – 24 years old, .265/.338/.458, 75 2B, 13 3B, 50 HR, 163 RBI, 25 SB, 11 CS, 114 OPS+, 8.1 bWAR in 1460 PAs (4 seasons).
Bregman has been the superior player, and coming off an 8.4 bWAR season, is likely to remain so.
This is great news. It’s less than I thought he’d get.
Also, not to beat a dead horse but seeing Moncada get these numbers seems to further indicate what bullshit it was for KW to say going 10 years with Machado would’ve made it impossible for them to lock up their core players.
Pretty much everybody knew it was bullshit long before they locked up any of their core players.
What a great deal for the Sox. 6 years, $90M, unless he falls flat on his face. The offensive core is just about locked up.
I’ve fully bought in to the hype. Moncada might be the last player I really think is worth an extension at this point. An argument could be made for Giolito, but pitchers are just too volatile and injury-prone to say that is a good bet to pay off (just look at Luis Severino in NY). Maybe when he gets closer to FA. The Grandal and Keuchel money is coming off the books the offseason he’s set to hit the open market anyways.
Hopefully cost certainty over their core equates to a willingness to continue to invest in free agency.
If Giolito pitches 180 innings and has an ERA below 4.25 this year, the Sox will offer him an extension, it’s SOP for them.
Not saying you’re wrong, but none of the pitchers they extended had a Tommy John surgery in their past. That’s the one thing that makes me skeptical of a Giolito deal.
Though the most recent extended pitcher (Bummer) does fall into that category, so maybe their thinking has changed.
I was thinking starters — Sale, Quintana, Danks, Floyd. The last year on a Giolito deal would probably be worth Bummer’s whole guarantee.
Yeah, Giolito’s ask will be a lot larger than Bummer’s, especially if he builds on the gains of last year. As extended relievers go, I dearly hope Bummer does not reprise Nate Jones’s health record.
I would imagine the offer would have some sort of contingency based on the need for additional elbow surgery. Not sure Giolito would agree to it but the offer would be made.
What’s amazing is that the White Sox put clauses in Jones’s contract to protect their end in case of injury and he STILL got all his money.
They offered Wheeler 5 years.
Four years of control for a pitcher is plenty.
If only we could have convinced Gerritt Cole of that.
I know the market says Cole be paid what he’s worth. It’s just a bad idea to put yourself in a position of needing to jump off that cliff. That’s why they need to be looking for pitching, in the draft, J2, and trades going forward.
Yes, it was a bad idea for the 103 win Yankees to put themselves in a position where they had to pay arguably the best pitcher in the game over $300 million. I weep for their fans.
How much risk does a Tommy John project?
Significant if you’re talking about a contract over three years.
They literally just extended Bummer who does have a TJ in his past.
But I’m pretty sure you meant the starter extensions
Edit: someone else already made this point. I should read to the bottom of the thread b/f commenting next time.
Extensions are like gambling at a casino.
The house always wins, on the whole.
If possible, the Sox should 100% extend Giolito!
They should also be leveraging this year of service time to extend Kopech right now since he might be extendable at less than starter money.
They should be extending Cease & Lopez for cheap as well, both of them signed for relatively little & neither is certain they will get to stay as starters.
I can understand waiting on Madrigal. He is just such a wildcard. But the second he proves he can hit big league pitching at a sustainable OPS they should extend him.
Heck, if they can get Vaughn to do an extension they should the way the Mariners did with Evan White.
I would even extend Stiever. Multiple scouts have said that his floor is as a high quality bullpen arm / closer quality. And his ceiling is obviously as a member of the rotation.
If they did all those extensions, they would probably regret one of them. But they would save so much money to make the one bad extension worth it 10x over.
I’d be all for giving Vaughn an Evan White-like extension. Thing is, Vaughn is a much more highly regarded prospect than White ever was, is expected to produce power numbers that White never will that will get him huge money in arbitration and as a FA, and got over twice the signing bonus that White did when drafted. Then again, I didn’t think Moncada would sign an extension that was under nine figures, so I guess never say never.
Hope his elbow holds up for six years.
Joyfully jumping on the bandwagon… This is great news! kudos to Jerry and the FO !
Yo-yo a go-go, baby!
He got the beat!
That Yoan was willing to sign this deal rather than take his chances in arbitration and hit free agency at age-29 is, in my opinion, a testament to how close-knit the clubhouse is. I don’t think he would have taken this deal if he weren’t fond of the team that’s been built around him, to say nothing of having three more seasons with his mentor, Abreu.
I agree. I don’t think this a huge underpay, but the Sox still did pretty well here. The fact that he took this extension having already made a significant amount of money in his career suggests he really does want to be a part of this. It’s a nice feeling as a fan.
Sexy/Soxy lineup today! If this is the opening day look, I submit my vote for swapping Eloy and Abreu’s spots in the order.
Exciting either way. I need a Trapper Keeper.
Gio
Yoan
Tim
Jose
Grandal (!)
Encarnacion
Eloy
Robert
Leury
Engel (the one exception)
Where’s Nomar?
Sadly, he’s Nomar.