Lucas Giolito redefined himself in May

Back in early 2017, when Lucas Giolito was questioning everything he was doing while trying to rebuild his mechanics in Triple-A, I mentally assigned a Gavin Floyd comp to him, and more than out of the convenience. Besides being an enigmatic, uneven pitcher in a White Sox uniform, they shared a whole host of traits:

  • Right-handed
  • Large
  • First-round picks out of high school
  • Well-regarded fastball-curve combination
  • Hit a wall with original team
  • Mechanical work to be done
  • Doubts about confidence

That comp bummed some readers and listeners out because Floyd wasn’t a fan favorite for reasons I never quite grasped. He had a nice five-year run, averaging a 4.12 ERA (108 ERA+) and 190 innings a season over that time. He also signed the team-friendly extension John Danks didn’t, which became team-friendlier when he suffered arm injuries at the end of his South Side career and the Sox could just walk away from it. My guess is that Floyd had enough innings and nights where he looked untouchable to make his rough ones harder to justify. Perfect is the enemy of good, and all that.

There were some differences between Giolito and Floyd at their worst — Giolito’s chief problem was strikes, while Floyd’s was homers — but the comp had enough going for it to reassure me, especially when Giolito posted a 6.13 ERA and exchanged his curve for a newly minted slider as his primary breaking pitch, which is another thing they had in common. That shared track then took a turn for the rewarding this year when Giolito boasted a 3.55 ERA through his first seven starts.

But Giolito has thrown three starts since then, and they’ve all been great. He went the abbreviated distance in a rain-shortened win over the Blue Jays, the full distance in a four-hit shutout of the Astros, then overcame a first-inning stumble to strike out 10 Royals over eight innings in what is now his fifth straight win.

That Tuesday start put a bow on a May that’s been unbelievably good. If I want to use every part of the buffalo on this Floyd comp, it ranks right up there with Floyd’s best:

PitcherMonthIPHHRBBKERA
GiolitoMay 201941.124210461.74
FloydJune-July 201072.058117591.75
FloydJune 200942.129211301.28


That middle one is the next stop on Giolito’s quest, because it could look even better if I shuffled the endpoints by a start. The Rangers knocked out Floyd in the third inning on June 2 that year to raise his ERA to 6.64. Two weeks into August, he’d lowered it to 3.49. Over 12 starts from early June through early August, Floyd posted a 1.19 ERA while averaging seven innings a night.

But depending on how you view the strikeout column, Floyd and Giolito may no longer be comparable. Perhaps Floyd could’ve struck out 10 over nine in this era, but he wasn’t a huge K-rate guy even at his best, which is why his best came was so hard to capture on anything resembling a consistent basis.

Giolito is racking up strikeouts even when he’s not giving himself that many batters to do it. After posting a 16 percent K-rate last year, it’s now over 29 percent. Floyd basically spent his entire White Sox career at 19-20 percent.

It’s easy to see where Giolito’s strikeouts are coming from. His average fastball has gained nearly two ticks, and combined with his big frame and improved command, it’s hard for hitters to meet it when he’s working up in the zone. That makes his changeup more effective, and there have been some games where he hasn’t needed to use anything else. He’s pretty much ditched his curveball, but Whit Merrifield’s postgame comment suggests the reputation still precedes it:

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/1133568172316143616

The increased tempo he found with James McCann while racing in the rainout is also a bonus, although I find that to be a self-fulfilling prophecy (Mark Buehrle aside, nobody ever compliments a pitcher’s pace when he’s contending with baserunners). Even if you don’t give that much emphasis, Giolito already has multiple posts on which to hang his improvement.

If Giolito can summon an encore in June, he’ll have done it against a tougher slate of opponents. He’ll face some combination of the Indians, Nationals, Royals, Yankees, Cubs, Rangers, Red Sox and Twins, most of whom have tougher offenses than the ones he’s faced over the first two months. His four-hitter against Houston looms so large in this discussion. That start was his only opportunity to validate his improvement against an above-average opponent the entire month, and he aced it.

Basically, if you told me before the season Giolito was going to take advantage of a favorable schedule to post a sub-2.00 ERA in May, I’d expect it to feel exceptionally fragile. It doesn’t. And while he spent last year torturing analysts who dared to pin hopes on upswings, we’re watching a dramatically different pitcher this time around, both visually and analytically. The longer this guy hangs around, the more we’ll have to search for a comp everybody can be excited about.

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fundman

For the first time in forever I turned the game on after getting home late just to see a Sox pitcher early in the week pitch the 8th and man does he look good.

GrinnellSteve

This has been a joy to watch. His starts are becoming must-see TV.

Lurker Laura

Yes! Nice to have something like that again.

asinwreck

I am heartened — but not surprised — that Giolito’s been able to reclaim his velocity. What shocks me is his command. What’s he’s doing right now brings Verlander to mind. I hope he continues to build on his current success.

gatzman

McCann used the same comp yesterday and he’s caught him a bunch (56 games). Let the Pitchers pitch and the catchers do all the rest.

TheBigHrabosky

I was excited to watch the game but I missed the top of the first. Was kinda of bummed to see the 3 spot on the board but Giolito looked great and I thought the Sox had a chance to come back. Was pleased to be rewarded for my optimism.

There was a start last summer where Giolito put it all together and dominated. He had that killer changeup working from the same slot as his fastball and he was just unhittable. That’s how he looks all the time this season.

PauliePaulie

Hope his HS delivery isn’t what caused his TJ surgery.
Sox need to take a hard look at what their mechanical changes are doing to pitchers’ velo throughout the system.

Lurker Laura

Hope his HS delivery isn’t what caused his TJ surgery.

Hush your mouth.

karkovice squad

He’s not using his high school delivery. He just did offseason work with his high school coach who’s now an assistant with SF.

Also, Giolito’s velocity was already down when the Sox acquired him. Washington had messed with his mechanics.

PauliePaulie

My mistake on the HS delivery. Thanks.

I mentioned the velo because it’s down nearly system wide.

PauliePaulie

FanGraphs has a new Mock. Say Sox deploying a new draft strategy. Abrams at 3 and a HS pitcher in the 2nd round. I’d be ecstatic if true.

As Cirensica

Anybody knows a quick way to find the pitcher/catcher combo for a pitcher. I was just curious if McCann has been Giolito’s catcher from the get go.

PauliePaulie

Baseball Reference under the “splits” tab. Scroll down to “By Catcher”

And yes, McCann has caught all his games.

As Cirensica

Thanks

Red_Hair_White_Sox

I’ve been looking for that split for a week now

Sox are 19-13 in games started by McCann and 7-18 in Beef games

As Cirensica

Castillo and Alonso are costing the White Sox money and wins. They are just dead weight at this point and BOTH should be released.

Whoom

Is that a true catcher split? It seems like the pitchers probably have a bunch to do with it too.

Mind you, I also can’t stand watching Castillo catch.

tommytwonines

Giolito had a very nice stretch of games at the end of the 2017 season – I believe over his last ten starts or so his ERA was top ten in the majors (Bill James had the numbers on one of the radio shows back then). Had a nice spring in 2018 and then he lost his release point and we saw what happened last year. 

He’s looking good, but he seems susceptible to Alec Hansen-ish ups and downs. His velo wasn’t up there in 2017, though, and the change-up is better – maybe it is sustainable this time. 

PauliePaulie

With the reworked mechanics, not sure how telling past #’s are.

karkovice squad

New mechanics; better stuff; different pitch selection; better at holding runners; new approach to dealing with struggles; and, surprisingly, a batterymate whose framing has been close enough to average that he’s made up for deficiencies there with the rest of his game.

If you’re going to buy into the sustainability of results from 1/3rd of a season, that’s what you’d look for.

And this might not even be his ceiling if he can rediscover his curve.

fundman

His work controlling the running game in the 8th was super

tommytwonines

@PauliePaulie You’re not the guy who loved Covey for a week last year, are you? Maybe that was pnoles. 

PauliePaulie

No. Always saw Covey’s ceiling as a 2 inning guy.
But I was fooled by Scott Snodgress after seeing him in Spring Training in, I think it was, 2012.

Right Size Wrong Shape

A while ago somewhere, I don’t know when
I was watching a baseball game with a friend.
I fell in love with the pitcher.
He was playing a part that I could understand.

Patrick Nolan

It was me, and it was longer than a week. He was dealing for about a month, with the peripherals to back it up. The guy looked great.

tommytwonines

So what happened? Is the velo the same? He’s still got some value. Fix him!

karkovice squad

Velocity’s fine, it’s just got shitty spin and movement. He needs a coach who can work on his pitch design and tunneling.

The current version of Covey should be leaning cutter, change, curve. And should be limited to 60-80 pitches.

tommytwonines

@kark Sometimes they just don’t “need a coach.”  Sometimes they flash, league adjusts, and they’re not quite good enough. The number of guys you highlight for better coaching from the Sox you’d think they were the ‘27 Yankees, just without direction. Driveline fixed Fulmer, who’s next on their list?

karkovice squad

That’s a nice pile of straw you’ve got there. I’m not saying coaching turns these guys into MVPs. There are specific, identifiable flaws with known fixes that could make Covey and Lopez into serviceable or better major leaguers, if not hitting their actual ceilings.

Keep trotting out Fulmer all you want but we literally have Giolito as an example of what can happen when you pair someone willing to do the work with someone who can diagnose the problem and prescribe a solution.

So if all you’ve got is snark, kindly pound sand.

tommytwonines

And all you’ve got is your not-quite comprehending Straw-Man argument.

Hope you’re right on Giolito. We don’t have Lucas as a solution – we’ve got a guy who has pitched well for a month after a terrible season. 

karkovice squad

Enjoy the beach.

Lurker Laura

I’d forgotten how good Floyd could be. I always liked him, but yes, got easily frustrated with the Hyde part of his pitching.

GreatjonHumber

Lucas with a 92 mph fastball is bad, Lucas with a 95-96 mph fastball is good. He’s also been a bit lucky on flyballs. But you can’t luck your way into swinging strikes, and he’s getting a ton of them. The high fastball – buried changeup combo is devastating.

The Cool

Yeah, but does he have BHB?

yinkadoubledare

instead he’s been more like Many Baños

asinwreck

Frank Thomas missed an endorsement opportunity with Floyd. Maybe Floyd was holding out for a deal with Three Floyds, but Bannister and Robinson would not agree.

Trooper Galactus

Clearly they should go into business with an early 2000s White Sox starter. Frank-Floyd-Wright just has a nice ring to it.