White Sox make first attempt at announcing promotional schedule

For the second consecutive day, the White Sox issued a media release pertaining to the 2022 season.

Unlike the roster of the player development staff, it’s harder to know when the dates and photos of selected giveaways will actually come into play.

Here are the dates and items the White Sox are proposing in a world where the season starts on time.

  • March 31: 2021 AL Central championship pennant
  • April 2: White Sox crewneck sweatshirt
  • April 30: White Sox hockey jersey
  • June 11: White Sox Hawaiian shirt
  • Sept. 4: Los White Sox soccer jersey

And you can see the photos of the items below.

There are also four scheduled bobblehead days — April 16, May 14, July 4 and July 23 — but because MLB teams are pretending current members of the MLBPA don’t exist, the White Sox merely said they’d involve “current and former White Sox players.” Credit them for delivering the redacted news more gracefully than the Brewers, I suppose.


As for the lockout, the news isn’t getting any better, even by the bad-news-is-probably-no-news standards that usually apply to unpopular public negotiations. The Athletic’s Evan Drellich says that Major League Baseball is already proposing for federal mediators to assist in collective bargaining talks, rather than responding to the MLBPA’s last proposal.

Drellich says the union isn’t likely to sign up for it because it didn’t do anything for them during the 1994. Labor laywer and Sox Machine Podcast guest Eugene Freedman said in a Twitter thread that under earnest circumstances, a mediator can have third-party input that can help rein in more extreme factions in the individual camps. In this case, if some owners are playing extreme hardball, or if some players are demanding the impossible, an informed and impartial mediator might be able to reinforce the median notions and get a side to focus up.

Under more cynical circumstances, it’s a way for management to say that the union isn’t coming to the table, knowing they’re probably not likely to take the risk of meeting with a mediator who deals them a bad hand. If Alex Wood’s reaction is any indication, the players would rather point out that, between the six-week inactivity before the new year and limited exchanges since, the league hasn’t had much of an interest in coming to the table in the first place.

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Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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Lurker Laura

Off-topic, but Jim, did you know that KenPom has a curling site? doubletakeout.com

Lurker Laura

What, you don’t do that in your Friday night club league?

calcetinesblancos

MLB is so close to making itself irrelevant. I’ve always loved baseball and it’s the only sport I regularly attend in person, but I have many other interests and a limited attention span for this bickering bullshit. I’m guessing many others feel the same way.

Right Size Wrong Shape

Whenever it comes back, I’ll be there. It’s baseball.

calcetinesblancos

To me, sports are a fun distraction from the mundane. This labor bickering makes them lose their luster quick.

Right Size Wrong Shape

I’m not interested in the negotiations, I’m just saying that whenever it’s resolved, I’ll be back and excited for baseball. In the meantime, like you, I can find other ways to entertain myself.

It’s not just the labor disputes that are turning me off. MLB has consistently implemented policies over the years that have made their product more and more hostile for the average fan to consume. Between skyrocketing prices at games, media blackouts, and actively encouraging half the league to basically not even try to compete, while focusing on shit nobody asked them to change like extra inning rules and pitch clocks, I’m just finding it’s harder and harder to enjoy a game that feels less and less like the one I grew up loving.

joewho112

Does anyone who says this stuff ever believe it? Owners and player have been bickering for the better part of a century. Why would starting the season a month late be any different that most of the past labor stoppages?

I see the same comments on Bears blogs about “If they don’t hire a good coach, I am quitting this team.” Like, why did you stick around for the past 30 years if good coaching is so important to you?

calcetinesblancos

Well I clearly don’t subscribe to that philosophy since I was still rooting for them after they hired LaRussa lol.

GrinnellSteve

Where’s Abe Gibron when we need him?

ForsterFTOG

That great buffet in the sky.

Trooper Galactus

I didn’t attend a single game at Sox Park in 2021, and I don’t foresee myself doing it in 2022 either. Attending a game is basically a full day commitment for me given my schedule, and I have precious few days off to spend that sort of time and money to watch a product live which I feel far less enthusiasm for than I should.

roke1960

I’m right there with you. I’ve been a baseball fan all my life and whenever they settle this, I’ll be back. As RSWS said below, I’ll be there, it’s baseball. But a bigger and bigger part of me hopes they cancel the season. This is just ridiculous that can cannot find common ground on almost anything. They are like a couple of spoiled bratty kids who have everything, but want more- and who also want to make sure that no one else gets anything. I would really love to see a nationwide boycott attempted if they lose a significant part of the season. My life will go on without baseball, even though it’s my favorite sport.

Joliet Orange Sox

Every one of the five collective bargaining contracts I have been the lead negotiator for at my workplace over the last 20 years has had a facilitator from FCMS from the very start because of a labor/management war in the 1990’s. They have been very helpful.

The parties can request facilitation or mediation. Facilitation is what we have always started with. The facilitator just enforces agreed-upon ground rules like no interrupting, no ad hominem attacks, time limits on caucuses of one side or the other,… Once we have had to move to mediation with the FCMS representative playing a much more direct role pointing out where the middle was and calling one side or the other out for trying to game the system with a ridiculously lowball opening offer (Essentially they proposed a 10% pay cut, we proposed a 3% raise, and then they said the middle compromise should be a 3.5% pay cut. The mediator did not allow it.)

I think the parties should request facilitation as a starting point.

Lastly, I think the concerns about the FCMS rep being biased are overblown. The reps come from a wide variety of backgrounds (former management, former union leader, former priest (that’s true),…). In my experience, typically more than one person from FCMS shares the facilitating job with different ones coming to different sessions after they all attend the session establishing ground rules (once it’s mediation, it has to be one single mediator who is pretty deeply involved). In one of the negotiations I was involved with, management came to believe a facilitator was biased against them. They raised the concern and it was discussed and it was clear the FCMS rep could not assuage their concerns and FCMS replaced that person later in the week.

Last edited 6 months ago by Joliet Orange Sox
Joliet Orange Sox

I agree that mediation/facilitation can go wrong. (I secretly agreed with management when they thought the facilitator was biased against them.)

Even if they move from facilitation to mediation, the FMCS has no power other than persuasion to move either side. The one time we went from facilitation to mediation, I was not pleased when the mediator stated that he thought the key to a resolution was for my side to move a little on an issue that we simply could not move on because it was too dear to the members for historical reasons. His suggestion did not help my side and we in fact worked without a contract for months during that negotiation. After I stopped being mad at the mediator, I realized his suggestion made it clear that our position was something that couldn’t be understood easily by anyone who hadn’t lived through the previous 10 years. The mediator forcing my side to explain and defend our unwillingness to move at all helped clear up some real misunderstandings about what my side and management each really wanted and cared about.

I still think getting the FMCS involved greatly improves the chances of this getting resolved.

Joliet Orange Sox

I realize that my mental block of typing FMCS and FCMS interchangeably when I mean FMCS has happened several times above.

joewho112

This makes sense

It’s a wholly unsurprising outcome, given the manner in which meetings between the two sides have played out thus far. Major League Baseball’s suggestion for a federal mediator was always eyebrow-raising, given their lack of any kind of new proposal. There’s nothing to mediate, after all, when one side declines to even bring an offer to the table. As Sheryl Ring points out (Twitter thread), mediation of this nature is generally a measure taken when both sides have submitted a good-faith proposal to resolve a dispute, and a third party then helps foster progress toward a resolution.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/mlbpa-rejects-mlb-federal-mediation.html

Joliet Orange Sox

I agree that it mediation is premature at this time for the reasons stated. I very much think getting someone from FMCS to facilitate would be helpful. In these very tense situations, having someone who is not part of either side enforce basic civility and order can keep the sides talking.

I’ve spent well over 1000 hours of my life in collective bargaining sessions with FMCS facilitators/mediators and they have helped much more than than they have harmed the process. The labor/management struggles of my workplace with its $120M total budget (much of that paying for costs not related at all to salary/benefits) may seem like they have no parallels to this negotiation with much more money involved but I think the issues of hurt feelings, not listening, pettiness, attempted bullying, lack of honest communication, gamemanship, and general jackassery are what what makes collective bargaining hard no matter the monetary stakes (along with the differing interests of the constituents of each sides. I have members who care about different things than other members. Management has different VP’s who care about different things than other VP’s. I think the same is true in the owner/player negotiation).

joewho112

Joe West retires

Last edited 6 months ago by joewho112
itaita

And who says its only bad news this off-season.

calcetinesblancos

He’s retiring to spend more time with his family getting hammered with Hawk down in Florida.

ParisSox

This is why I come to this site every day. Sometimes you learn so much in the comments.

From beautiful curling shots to an education on labor negotiations and federal mediators and facilitators.

Thanks all!