White Sox Minor Keys: July 31, 2022

Prior to Sunday’s action, the White Sox announced that they reached agreements with all 20 of their draft picks, as well as 10 non-drafted free agents.

Baseball America’s signing database shows that basically all of their Day 3 overage went to 11th-round pick Jacob Burke, who signed for $225,000, or $100,000 over the maximum slot value. Three other players — 12th-round shortstop Brooks Baldwin, 14th-round lefty Shane Murphy, 17th round righty Nick Altermatt and 19th-round third baseman Drake Logan, signed for $125,000.

As for the non-drafted free agents, here’s the list:

  • Right-handed pitchers Eric Hildebrand (Purdue University), Connor McCullough (Kansas State University), Drew McDaniel (University of Mississippi) and Cole Ramage (University of Arkansas);
  • Left-handed pitchers Ben Beutel (University of Iowa) and Jacob Palisch (Texas A&M University);
  • Catcher Troy Claunch (Texas A&M University);
  • Infielders Matt Archer (Lynn University) and Taishi Nakawake (University of California-Irvine);
  • Outfielder Chris Lanzilli (University of Arkansas).

Charlotte 2, Nashville 1

  • Lenyn Sosa and Adam Haseley were both 0-for-4 with a strikeout.
  • Jake Burger, 1-for-4 with two strikeouts.
  • Carlos Pérez went 0-for-4, but stole a base.
  • Tyler Neslony was 0-for-3 with a walk.

Tennessee 8, Birmingham 5

  • José Rodrígueez went 1-for-4 with his second homer of the year.
  • Oscar Colás returned to the lineup, singling, walking and striking out twice.
  • Yoelqui Céspedes was 1-for-3 with a double and an HBP.

Winston-Salem 8, Greensboro 4

  • Colson Montgomery went 0-for-4 with a walk and a strikeout.
  • Bryan Ramos blew up: 3-for-4 with two homers, a walk and a strikeout.
  • Luis Mieses was 0-for-5 with two strikeouts.

Kannapolis 9, Columbia 0

  • Wes Kath went 2-for-4.
  • DJ Gladney had the same day as Ramos: 3-for-4 with two homers, a walk and a strikeout.
  • Wilfred Veras was 3-for-5.
  • Jared Kelley’s best start yet: 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 8 K, 41 of 71 pitches for strikes.
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jhomeslice

You gotta like Kelley with 2 earned runs in his last 18 innings, and 15 K’s in his last 9+. I hope he is with the franchise in 2 days. I would be content with no trades, as opposed to something very questionable.

Last edited 10 days ago by jhomeslice
As Cirensica

Am I crazy to think this has been a tremendous year for the White Sox minor league system? Some unknown household names making it. Seemed busts making a comeback, and say “don’t forget about me”, and top prospects meeting/exceeding expectations. Yesterday I was reading about Luke Schilling rising in the minors as a potential good bullpen arm. Barely knew about him before just like Davis Martin. Somebody is doing a good job in the minors. About time.

BenwithVen

Agreed. We might have 3 top 100 guys by the end of the year which is huge considering where we started the year.

soxygen

For a team with a bottom 5 farm system, this feels pretty good. Think about how barren and devoid of talent some other recent bad Sox farm systems have been!!!

Montgomery, Ramos, Colas, Rodriguez, and Vera are an exciting bunch to follow, and there is at least some depth behind those top 5 guys. And while I wasn’t a huge fan of this year’s draft, it sure feels nice to have added some more pitching upside and depth.

knoxfire30

Yea, I think some of us were even saying this closer to the start of the season, “for a worst farm system in baseball” they definitely had some very intriguing pieces. Something that was not the case in years past when they had a terrible farm.

The romy gonzalez and jose rodriguez types may have taken a step back, but Vera getting stateside, sosa and montgomery blowing up the system, and colas being very solid at AA among some other interesting guys playing well like mena and ramos who are still young for their level in the minors.

jhomeslice

Certainly the Sox system got a little better this year. The only thing is it’s still relative. Right now they have 1 top 100 guy, while the Guardians have 8, the Yankees have 5 including one top 10 and 2 others in top 40, and the Jays have 5.

So while the Sox stand to get better as the group you mention eventually come up, they probably don’t really stand to gain (or even not lose ground) relative to other teams bringing up their propsects, unfortunately.

I’m glad their farm system is a bit better, and it would be great if they get one Jeremy Pena surprise out of that group. But to really change their competitive outlook it will take a big change in philosophy with free agency. Unless they are extremely creative with trades.

HallofFrank

But the strength of the system is also relative to who’s on the Major League team now and how they project over the next 4-6 years (it seems pointless to project beyond that). At least in the Guardians’ case, I’ll take the Sox combo of young, controllable talent and a bottom-half farm system than what the Guardians have.

I will add, however: the Sox projections over the next 4-6 years could be looking a lot uglier, depending on how the next 2 months ago. Without a strong finish to the season, I think Moncada, Eloy, Robert, Vaughn, and Giolito could see huge hits to their projections going into next year. And, I don’t blame the projections: it’s tough to know what to do with them. But, for now, I still like what the Sox have in-house over what the Guardians have.

jhomeslice

I’ll take the Sox over the Guardians this year. I have no idea beyond that. I mean the Sox have a payroll $125M higher and nearly 3X the Guardians and yet they are a game behind in the standings. That’s truly an amazing testimony to how bad Hahn and Tony are.

As to how much young, controllable talent the Sox actually have, I think the jury is really out on that one. Eloy and Moncada have a combined WAR barely above zero. I wish they didn’t owe Yoan 40M the next two years, I’m willing to bet that they could find someone enormously better in a heartbeat for that. Luis Robert is their only position player other than Abreu with a WAR over 2. I see this team lacking exceptional talent more than having an abundance of it. And they’re almost undoubtedly going to get a lot less help from their farm system than other teams.

HallofFrank

I agree that the jury is still out, to an extent (thus, my second paragraph in my previous comment). But the jury is really out on any prospect. For all their question marks, Eloy, Robert, and Vaughn are immensely better bets to be good major leaguers/all-stars than anyone in the Guardians’ farm system. That’s just the nature of prospects. In general, I think fans overrate prospects. It’s fantastic to have lots of good prospects, don’t get me wrong. But it’s better to have young, controllable players who’ve shown MLB success.

But, again, I think we largely agree: there are plenty of question marks on this team that need answers. And quickly.

JimMargalusBiggestFan

I think approach is still largely lacking in the minor league hitters. Still a lot of very low walk rates across each level. That needs to be fixed.

a-t

it might be improving some, the top three guys are all above average there, Monty well above

andyfaust

more hitters are always welcome, and you would like to see some more walks throughout the system, but the lack of pitching up and down the farm is far more alarming to me. That’s why Kelley’s last few starts have been such a welcome bit of news, as Jhomeslice already pointed out.

Drdoctor

I know the stat doesn;t matter much. I know it matter way less than in the minors. I know I shouldn’t care.

But I also have to imagine Kelly feels good about finally have a win in his professional career. So for that, I’m glad to see it!

Wayne

So quickly looking at the bonuses, it looks like:

  • Top 3 picks overslot
  • 4th pick at slot
  • Variable savings 5-10
  • 11th rounder “overslot”
  • 4 additional players at $125k limit in 12-20
  • 5 players 13-20 variable amounts under $125k
Soxfan2

I just did a little mid-season check in on one of my off-season OF targets in Mark Canha He’s having a real nice season on the Mets. He’s been worth 1.7 fWar in 84 games with a 123 wRC+. His wRC+ is actually 140 against RHP.

The Sox would have been best off not picking up Kimbrel’s contract and signing a guy like Canha instead.

Wayne

Or QO for Rodon (rectified quickly), and sign Canha, Joc. (Don’t look, but Nomar Mazara would even have helped the team).
Remember, Mets acted quickly to get their FA targets who did not have QOs.

jhomeslice

You just knew that nothing good would come from picking up Kimbrel’s option. I even liked the Pollock trade for a minute, until of course he has his career worst season by a mile, and now they are stuck with him next year as well.

They need brighter people making decisions to get headed in right direction, there can be little doubt about that.

Drdoctor

Keith Law put out a midseason Top 60.
Colson Montgomery -> #43.
Bryan Ramos -> one of 10 HM.

FKL for trying to ruin my general dourness 🙂

dwjm3

What does “one of 10HM” mean? I’m not following your acronym.

Last edited 9 days ago by dwjm3
andyfaust

Ramos wasn’t included in the top 60, but he was one of ten “honorable mention” names Law listed, suggesting he may be in Law’s top 70 or so. Certainly top 100 at least, you would think.

Right Size Wrong Shape

Honorable Mention?

Willardmarshall

If there were a White Flag Trade today, who would be gone?

phillyd

Liam Hendricks and Kendall Graveman

andyfaust

Jimenez

andyfaust

and anderson

jorgefabregas

Abreu

metasox

If only white flag and not rebuild, probably not much of note other than relievers

Last edited 9 days ago by metasox
knoxfire30

Hader to padres,

Musgrave signs 5 year 100 mil deal

Cubs send a reliever to yanks… things are heating up

knoxfire30

2 things to keep an eye on, like the berrios deal , musgrave will be a comp in Giolito discussions, and seeing what the padres gave up for hader may serve as a blue print if the sox have to sell next year on Hendrix….

jorgefabregas

Twins are apparently not likely to get Montas

Right Size Wrong Shape

My guess is the Twins end up with Rodon.

andyfaust

If that’s the case, I’d rather it were Montas.

Right Size Wrong Shape

What is Milwaukee doing?

jhomeslice

I was thinking the same. I guess Hader isn’t having a great year. But still a strange trade for a team in first to make. I don’t know enough about what they got in return, if they really like the prospects then I can see it I guess.

If the Sox dealt Hendriks or Graveman I would not be troubled, if they got a great return. This isn’t the Sox year, I think is obvious, and they could easily replace either of them in the offseason. But that’s certainly not what they are planning on doing it sounds like. I just hope they don’t do something questionable or dumb.

Right Size Wrong Shape

If the Sox trade their two best relievers while 2 games out of first place I’ll be livid.

jhomeslice

I don’t think any chance of them trading either. I’ll be relieved once the deadline passes if they don’t do something seriously questionable.

Torpedo Jones

Brewers are just trying to maximize their return for Hader. Not to say it’s the best move at this stage of the year, but it’s the sort of thing savvy small market teams like Tampa do on a regular basis. They get a good reliever back in Rogers, two potential building blocks in Gasser and Ruiz, and something of a lottery ticket in Lamet.

A little reliever arbitrage, getting a couple of prospects and saving some money.

The outfielder they got has been excellent in the minors this year.

Rogers has underperformed his xERA and xFIP a bit.

Malkatraz

I think this deal is a steal for the Brewers.

jorgefabregas

Jon Heyman reported that the White Sox were among teams asking after Shohei Ohtani, whom he says the Angels are keeping. https://nypost.com/2022/08/01/yankees-made-serious-trade-offer-for-shohei-ohtani/

Right Size Wrong Shape

Give ’em a blank check.

upnorthsox

Sure but even a blank check requires having something in the bank to cover.

Right Size Wrong Shape

Government bailout.

upnorthsox

they can’t even get a competitive balance pick

andyfaust

I’m sure they had a seat at the table. which speaks volumes…

upnorthsox

Gosh darn, they were so close……..

jhomeslice

There could be no doubt that the Sox would be in on players just like Ohtani and Soto. And pitchers just like Castillo. Velasquez’s return from the DL will be almost like Castillo, they both have spanish names.

upnorthsox

So we’re going after Ji-Man Choi and ???

BenwithVen

It just tells me that Ohtani is a guy they covet and they’ll probably try again if the Angels dangle him in the offseason. KW always gets his man and all that.

Malkatraz

They will get Ohtani AFTER his second contract.

Joliet Orange Sox

Anthony Misiewicz is off the board!

Adjust your hopes and dreams accordingly.

Last edited 9 days ago by Joliet Orange Sox
Right Size Wrong Shape

I’m all for KC acquiring more left handers. I think they should field an entire staff of them.

andyfaust

I’m convinced he will begin his KC career by having three consecutive scoreless appearances beginning this evening against the Sox. Perhaps an immaculate inning even.

jorgefabregas

Ken Rosenthal mentions White Sox involved with Andrew Chafin.

Chafin really *looks* like a reliever, so he’s got that going for him.

Right Size Wrong Shape

I wouldn’t give up much.

Foulkelore

Now I know for sure that you are not Rick Hahn.

andyfaust

I don’t expect it would take a haul of prospects. He’s been very effective, but his salary reflects that. Chafin in 2022 is what is supposed to happen when a club spends $6M/year or more on a multiyear bullpen guy. Joe Kelly is the other end of that spectrum.

Were the Sox the only club in the league that didn’t know he was hurt? When someone spends $4M to make you go away, that should serve as some kind of warning.

jhomeslice

If there was only a way to compare and find out, I wonder who the better value has been, Chafin for $6.5M or Kelly for $8.5? Let’s see them wind up with the most expensive bullpen of all time, and give up a couple of their top prospects to achieve that.

knoxfire30

im terrified the sox will give up a prospect of worth to make the tigers pick up some of chafins salary

chafin would fit a sox need but the money and allocation of resources again going to the pen would be mind blowing

if they make this move does it signal a commitment to let crochet start???

jhomeslice

I expect the deal will involve Montgomery, Colas, or Sosa for Chafin. Maybe all three.

If any of those 3 are dealt for anybody other than Soto, Hahn should be banned from MLB for life. Or at least Chicago.

metasox

Even before surgery, it looked like Crochet was committed to the bullpen

upnorthsox

That would push next years BP salaries to close to $50 million. Wow, just wow.

jorgefabregas

Just trying to think what a reasonable return would be. Here’s the top 30 list on MLB Pipeline, in dire need of an update: https://www.mlb.com/prospects/whitesox/

Which of these players would you consider?
Romy Gonzalez, Wes Kath, Andrew Dalquist, Sean Burke, Tanner McDougal, Kohl Simas, Luis Mieses, Wilfred Veras?

knoxfire30

They gave up baily horn for tempera last year… id imagine its similar to something like that, its the money that could make all the difference in the world… chaffin can opt out next year or stick around for 6 or 7 mil all of that has to be considered

jorgefabregas

Without knowing how their stuff compares, Kohl Simas seems kind of similar to Bailey Horn. There’s not that much difference between a senior sign and an UDFA. Simas is a bit younger than Horn was.

knoxfire30

yea, my first thought was kade mcclure who was a 6th round pick, horn was a 5th, but he has melted down this year and doesnt have much value

they will get “something” for chaffin on the open market so it cant just be dead weight, but I think the guys you listed are a hair high unless they pick up the money in that case its probably someone just like the guys you listed

upnorthsox

Gonzalez, Dalquist, Veras, Mieses in that order. My guess though is it will take Burke to get it done.

upnorthsox

Detroit is adding Chafin back to the active roster from the Restricted List. Not sure if that means anything or not but if his trade were imminent I doubt they’d go thru the motions of reassigning guys.

jorgefabregas

They can’t keep him on the restricted list for funsies. Pretty sure that’s necessary now that they’re not in Toronto. Did not know he was unvaccinated. That’s unfortunate.

jhomeslice

Montas to Yankees, Mancini to Astros.

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