First Pitch: White Sox vs. Blue Jays

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Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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dwjm3

Lol the Blue Jays hitting coach got ejected during the lineup card exchange

As Cirensica

For real?
Probably was talking about Ebbings’ mother.

Foulkelore

His mother did a good job. She didn’t let her child being blind stand in the way of him having a successful career.

dwjm3

Yup

chipporter

I’m a big believer that getting mad at an ump won’t make him see the strike zone better, but I don’t understand how guys that do as poorly as Eddings remain employed. Also, the umps shouldn’t have rabbit ears or be offended when one of their compatriots gets called out for doing an obviously shit job. Take it like a man, he did it.

soxfan

Is Eddings consistently bad or did he just have an off day?

Either way, I find it difficult to be mad at him since he was at home plate when Pierzynski stole first on a dropped third strike in the 2005 ALCS.

chipporter

Without going deep into stats, yes, he’s one of the worst with an avg strike consistency rating of 92.1 which ranks 5th worst.

soxfan

But the 2005 ring, man…

chipporter

Well, there’s that…. 🙂

As Cirensica

Giolito and his bad habit of struggling early. Then he pitches well, then he hits a wall at 75 pitches. Josh Nelson analyzed that at length in his recent podcast.

Foulkelore

I don’t think TLR would care anyway, but after last night’s pitching usage, there’s no way TLR is going to use the facts about 75 pitches or TTOP today. Giolito’s going 100+.

As Cirensica

Well…we better score 15 runs.

Foulkelore

I like this plan.

As Cirensica

Apparently Andrew Vaughn has a different plan.

Adam

I think his numbers are a bit misleading. He’s turned in two bad starts vs Houston and Toronto and 1 just ok start vs texas. The rest were good. I know the era looks bad but I just don’t think Giolito has been bad or he can’t go past x many pitches. Houston, Toronto, texas in a row can make anyone appear to slump

As Cirensica

You really need to hear Josh podcast for this week. Giolito’s number on the first 25 pitches are not good at all. He then settles down, until he reaches 75 pitches with eye popping bad results.

soxfan

There’s also a correlation v. causation question with the timing of his COVID stint, so yeah, three meh starts but if those are COVID related rather than an aberration then it might continue.

ChiSoxND12

Eeeegh, the numbers and eyeballs say Lucas has been bad since Memorial Day. Honestly probably worse than bad

I’m sure he’ll stem this tide, but he’s certainly been the most culpable party in these past 5 starts, 4 of them losses. Even the win vs Tampa included a near-coughing up of a big lead.

denman

Is the sample size still too small to start believing that Mendick can contribute at the Major league level? He is showing signs of being a player with limited talent who, with experience, can enjoy a few peak seasons where he’s above league average

As Cirensica

Mendick is showing that investing 3 years in Leury (or any utility man) is foolish.

Adam

I hate to jump to conclusions but Hasely can go. I’ve seen enough

Adam

Anything that touches hasely goes bad

soxygen

Yeah, I’ve had enough of the Adam Haseley Experiment

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Foulkelore

Haseley may have just solved the Harrison vs. Mendick debate in an unfortunate way.

As Cirensica

What did he do? I can’t watch the game. Darn blackouts

Foulkelore

There was a collision on a popout. Burger, Mendick, and Haseley were all going for it. Burger did give way, but Mendick did not and collided with Haseley, who made the catch. It looks like Mendick hurt his knee. He had to be helped off the field. It actually isn’t that Haseley did something wrong (easier play for outfielder), but he just happened to be the one who collided with Mendick.

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As Cirensica

Oh shit…it never stops. We can’t have nice things

soxygen

After under hustling to allow the catcher to double on what should have been a single, he made up for it by over hustling and knocking Mendick down on a fly ball. Maybe he didn’t call for it?

mrridgman

For those of you keeping TLR score, the final 2 plays of last half inning are illustative. First, a routine ground ball single turns into a double, as Hasely jogged to the ball and lobbed a throw to 2d, where Harrison caught it and leisurely turned around to find the batter there, clearly surprised. Isn’t there any communication, either in the outfield to hustle it up, or the infield to alert WTH is happening?
Second, ANOTHER collision between players. Maybe this one was unavoidable; we must lead the league.

Adam

I agree in principle but I’m pretty sure every time a sox player has hustled this year it’s resulted in catastrophe. He may be telling them take it easy, we can’t afford anything else

mrridgman

I’m at least as concerned with the lack of communication in both plays than the lack of hustle in Play 1.

metasox

Haseley is just up from Charlotte. He wouldn’t be changing his approach to defense depending on the manager. Unless, as suggested below, there was something intentional about it.

mrridgman

Luis, or somebody, needs to be yelling at him to hustle it up. He threw to 2d in a manner that clearly indicated he didn’t know the runner was going there (how is that possible?). Luis has been here long enough to be more aware (this is the Luis that jogged after a few balls this series, one a single-turned double). Even the Sox announcers have commented on it.

soxygen

Of course, Luis made the same mistake last night, so….

chipporter

Luis hollering at anybody to hustle up is an oxymoron.

dwjm3

Lol they put Leury in instead of Tim…I mean Tim got two innings off from the field I thought they would bring in

phillyd

How about stop throwing fastballs down the middle, especially to Kirk.

mrridgman

Gio got himself to 3-0.

Foulkelore

Now Engel is trying to stretch something out in between pitches. Hopefully, it’s nothing, but it’s not normal.

Foulkelore

Well, it wasn’t nothing. Engel is now out of the game with Pollock in.

funkerdan

we’re running out of players.

soxygen

Len said that Engel seems to be having trouble with his right leg

Adam

I’d like the sox to go back to the opposite field approach, if only to stop watching the Matt Chapman gold glove highlight reel

soxygen

I’d like to see the Sox approach many things in the opposite way

metasox

Costanza Day at the ballpark

As Cirensica

So Lucas Giolito is cooked. Right?

a-t

Huh? He’s slumping but I don’t really think he deserved this today based on how he threw. Jays grounders found holes at a remarkable rate

phillyd

His fastball is not very fast right now and he is throwing change-ups right down the middle.

a-t

He’s sitting 93 like he has the past three years. The changeups are being hung, it’s true, but he’s always been prone to giving up solo shots. The seven singles between third and short are why the score is what it is

phillyd

Gameday shows a whole bunch of 92 and as many 91’s as 94’s.

Adam

Would be nice if Gio could study Shane Bieber and use that as the model. Speed is great but control is key

As Cirensica

Yeah, that gran slam found a hole alright.😋

Adam

7-0 and two injuries, this game is becoming a disaster. Or an opportunity for an amazing comeback. But probably disaster

dwjm3

Well I guess we don’t have to worry about Jerry being too cheap to extend Giolito

soxygen

I can’t decide whether I should watch a game between two teams with orange on their uniforms or continue to watch the Sox amaze and astound us with incredible feats of athleticism, balletic grace, majestic infield pop ups, and managerial brilliance

ParisSox

Giolito is our 5th starter. Who would have thought?

As Cirensica

Maybe not even 5th. He is uncomfortably close to Vince Velasquez territory.

soxygen

Jose really put the “walk” back in drawing a walk

soxfan

You want him to pull a hammie on a base on balls?

soxygen

just commenting on his speed / leg injury. Designated hitter is a safe place to put him, but he looks like he is struggling to go 90 ft

As Cirensica

Giolito has allowed a whopping 15 homers this year. He is tied with Jose Berrios in that department. Yikes

dwjm3

Alejandro Kirk is fun to watch.

Little tank that can

upnorthsox

Kirk vs Giolito this year, 4 for 6 3HR 6RBI.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

This season is just another set up for Giolito that we’ll hear about in a Guaranteed Rate commercial 1500000 times

dwjm3

You would think a title sponsor of the team could film a new commercial from time to time

Foulkelore

Why is Robert only on first base?

Adam

Exaggerated half-assery. That was really bad. He didn’t even give 10% effort

soxygen

It was beer league stuff

soxygen

Sort of an extension of last night when he allowed the runner to advance to second on a single

Adam

Which is an extension of his entire career. Fantastic athlete. Just doesn’t like to show it. Maybe he has incredible humility and doesn’t want others to feel inferior

soxygen

Maybe, though I have never seen him dog it this much.

Maybe the owners locking out their employees over the off-season, leading to the loss of spring training, contributed to the players not being in shape and now we all have to watch an inferior product while still paying full price?

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Adam

Hasely doesn’t do much right, but the man can shag a flyball

Foulkelore

Vaughn at 2B alert

soxfan

We’re down by 6 runs so the rules allow it.

Foulkelore

I have good news and bad news. The good news is Vaughn looked like a second baseman who played 1381 games in the majors at 2B. The bad news is that I mean Chuck Knoblauch, after he got the yips.

soxygen

Good grief. Vaughn at 2nd. Seby at 1st. Garcia in CF.

soxfan

Vaughn and Seby flashing some leather on that impressive 4-3 put out.

Adam

On a day of downers, Vaughn is still fun to watch. Laser show

soxfan

PH Anderson for McGuire!

soxygen

Nah, we have these guys right where we want them!

soxfan

Josh Harrison coming to the plate with a chance to tie it – just the way La Russa wants it.

Adam

Boy, one big fly and this will forever be known as the Josh Harrison series

Foulkelore

With the tying run at the plate, this will become a bit humorous relying on Vaughn at 2B and Harrison at SS to close this out. I guess they could move Gacia back to SS, Harrison to 2B, move Vaughn to a corner OF spot, and Haseley to CF if it comes to that.

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Adam

Took every single inch of the stadium but banks getting through bichette vlad Kirk is a nice nice job there. Keeps the momentum if nothing else

As Cirensica

Can Leury stop being an automatic out?

Foulkelore

Damn, would have been nice to get Vaughn up last inning with the runners on.

Adam

Terrible luck. Two on there gives us a shot