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Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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Joliet Orange Sox

Seeing Giolito on the mound has made me less pessimistic regardless of how today goes.

Augusto Barojas

Garcia, Haseley, Mendick is one ugly ass bottom 1/3 of the order. But hey, at least they are not hitting at the top!

jhomeslice

Pretty sure that’s a worse trio of hitters than the Sox started all of last year. Quite an accomplishment.

Joliet Orange Sox

I haven’t checked but I expect there was a game last year with Leury, Hamilton, and Mendick all playing. Leury and Mendick are the same but Hasseley’s career batting numbers (OPS+ = 82) are bad but significantly better than Hamilton’s (OPS+ = 67).

I recognize that neither of these trios is good to see.

jhomeslice

I would give you credit, except Garcia 2022 appears to be much worse than 2021. Plus Haseley has had a sub-.600 OPS since 2020 even in the minors. I’ll go with today’s trio as worse!

Joliet Orange Sox

Hasseley has 30 PA’s in the time period you are referring to. I’m not saying Hasseley is an average or above average hitter. I’m saying he is not as bad a hitter as Billy Hamilton.

As for Leury, I don’t think he’s suddenly a different guy this year from last year. His OPS was under 0.500 till mid-May last year (in a season that started April 1). He’ll have some good streaks and some bad streaks and end up meh as always.

Last edited 3 months ago by Joliet Orange Sox
jhomeslice

Haseley had a .577 OPS in 156 AB’s at AAA last year, one reason he had so few mlb PA’s. Suffice to say both he and Hamilton are dreadful hitters, and both trios about as bad as it gets.

Foulkelore

Yeah, this crap needs to stop until they’re either less shorthanded or start rolling a bit. They could have Engel in CF and Burger at 3B today, even with the injuries. Tony is starting the end-of-bench players way too much to start the season, which is compounding their offensive problems due to missing injured players.

Last edited 3 months ago by Foulkelore
Augusto Barojas

TLR makes everything worse. That is his superpower.

jhomeslice

Amazing, not even 3 weeks into the season and the Sox outfield is already such a disaster that they have to start someone that is a worse hitter than Eaton or Lamb.

Foulkelore

They are choosing to start Haseley, unless I missed something. With this team and injury history, it’s certainly possible Engel’s leg fell off while taking routine fly balls before the game. Hopefully, Robert is back Tuesday, which might help limit Tony playing with his end-of-bench toys so much.

Foulkelore

It sucks getting another guy thrown out at the plate this week, but with Leury on deck and how close it was, that was the right decision to try there.

jhomeslice

Hell yeah. Heck, if Abreu scored, might as well send Sheets home too!

dwjm3

It still angers be that Leury and Harrison were considered sufficient at second base.

Augusto Barojas

Cesar Hernandez with a .540 OPS so far looks like an upgrade to both of them. To give an idea how bad those two have started off.

jhomeslice

Next few games I’d like to see Mendick over Garcia. He’s hitting a little bit at least. Give Leury a break, playing him every damn inning of every game isn’t helping him anyway, or the team.

Last edited 3 months ago by jhomeslice
As Cirensica

Collins with another HR with two on for the Jays. What’s happening?

Shingos Cheeseburgers

Getting some form of scouting report from the Jays he wasn’t before?

metasox

Interesting that he is no longer walking.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

The White Sox play an important role in all of our lives by reminding us to live in the moment and enjoy life because good times are perpetually fleeting and any iota of success will soon be washed away.

mikeyb

Feels like we’re just days away from Pnoles showing up to remind us that Aaron Bummer is a future first ballot hall of famer.

As Cirensica

Ruiz 》Bummer

Joliet Orange Sox

There have been a lot of hot takes on this site in the last couple days about players being good or bad. Yesterday, someone (not the poster I’m replying to here) went after TA!

I’m going to take the unpopular position that baseball players cannot really be evaluated over very small sample sizes. It’s a game of fluctuations and streaks that tempt us to see patterns where there often are none. Bummer is a 28-year-old with over 200 major league appearances and overall he’s been a good major league reliever. I’ll wait before changing my mind about him.

As Cirensica

I meant this year

As Cirensica

This team is gonne kill me. Just awful baseball fundamentals

As Cirensica

So glad Hahn invested heavy on relievers

As Cirensica

Phew…Graveman

Foulkelore

To win this game the Sox will have to score more than 3 runs. The last time they scored more than 3 runs was April 13th.

asinwreck

The White Sox at the moment lead the majors…in errors, with 18.

Did Tony La Russa bring Alan Bannister in to teach defensive fundamentals?

jhomeslice

He brought in Steve Sax.

Foulkelore

No pinch hitter for Leury. If there’s not one for Haseley next, I’m not going to be very happy.

As Cirensica

Haseley’s OPS more than doubles Leury’s who has become an automatic out

Last edited 3 months ago by As Cirensica
Shingos Cheeseburgers

There was the two base error last inning but I’m thinking the Sox defense still has something spectacular up their sleeves for the ninth.

Last edited 3 months ago by Shingos Cheeseburgers
Foulkelore

This is a great preview of playoff baseball vs. the … Twins. Oh.

Foulkelore

Wow, that was just an awful at bat by Pollock.

As Cirensica

Yaz….thank you

Foulkelore

He came through huge there. Now, can they please find a way to stop the Twins free runner at 2nd from scoring and get a W?

As Cirensica

liam is no right. I think he is hurting.

Foulkelore

Godoy was horrible today. The story of the game just might end up being Bummer and Hendriks both walking him ahead of Buxton with late leads. I hope it’s not.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

Lol

Buxton’s walk-off homer only went 469 feet.

Joliet Orange Sox

The ball being stored in a humidor may have made it travel less than it might have otherwise.

DuckSnorting-CanofCorn

At this point there really isn’t anything left to do but laugh.

I was amused by Reynaldo’s confusion about pushing the door instead of pulling. That was a highlight.

Last edited 3 months ago by Joliet Orange Sox
ForsterFTOG

The former starter that was pulled in favor of a struggling lefty when 3 out of 4 hitters coming up were right handed? That guy?

asinwreck

Fire Reinsdorf.

jhomeslice

This team is just not good right now. Hendriks off to a wonderful start to the year as well.

As Cirensica

So this is what Twins fans felt last year? I don’t like it

ForsterFTOG

No.
This is what Sox fans have felt like 14 of the last 16 years.

metasox

PECOTA had the Twins winning 91 in ’21. Taking the pessimistic view, it is scary to think whether the Sox could do a similar faceplant.

Augusto Barojas

This team was probably doomed the moment they hired La Russa.

As Cirensica

I have been trying to stay away from this view but pitching to Buxton with a base empty makes think we don’t have a good manager.

mrridgman

It made no sense at all, I yelled at my screen as it got to 3-1. What is the downside?

  1. Easily the best Twins hitter.
  2. His run doesn’t matter.
  3. Force out at home.
  4. Double play possibility.

Did I miss anything?

As Cirensica

A good manager?

jhomeslice

I mean no exaggeration, TLR has at times been about the worst manager that I’ve ever witnessed. I don’t even think Bevington was any worse.

Foulkelore

And though he did walk Godoy, a reliever who rarely walks anybody, so less of a chance of a run scoring with a bases loaded walk.

dwjm3

They are doomed as long as Jerry owns the team

He has three playoff series wins in 40 years

Shingos Cheeseburgers

One of my favorite Sox factoids is since Jerry took over the Marlins have more playoff series victories (7) than the Sox (3). And the Marlins had to wait ten years to start playing.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

To be fair they were doomed the moment they decided to rebuild again with the same brain trust that didn’t even come close the first time.

lifelongjd

Why in hell would you be pitching to that guy in that situation with first base open? I am out of ideas

Augusto Barojas

Because our manager is the stupidest person with a MLB managerial job that has ever lived.

ParisSox

Hendricks hurt his back. I recognize that pain.

We are the ‘21 Twins.

May is make or break. We either start winning and stay close, or keep fallalling and fall out of it quickly.

metasox

No other team is likely to run away with this division. Unless the team completely flops, hard to see that they can fall out of it that quickly. Heck, a 500 record might win it

Last edited 3 months ago by metasox
jhomeslice

A .500 record is good enough for first at the moment.

ParisSox

I appreciate the shot of optimism

metasox

Though it is plenty early and there is reason for optimism to reach the post-season, I think what we all wanted to see was a team that looked like it could compete in the post-season, not another one and done. This doesn’t look like that.

LamarJohnson

It has been
0 days
since last bag on head post

As Cirensica

When you lose Chuck…

Joliet Orange Sox

Wow. I didn’t think it was possible for TLR to lose Chuck.

Shingos Cheeseburgers

With that kinda outburst Chuck is gonna get sent back into the stands to interview drunk fans.

roke1960

I’m sorry, but pitching to Buxton with a base open and the winning run on base already is a fireable offense. Tony has got to be the worst manager in the majors right now. There is NO explanation for pitching to Buxton there that makes any sense. I’m beginning to think that Tony is trying to sabotage this team. I can’t think of any other reason for some of his decisions.

Last edited 3 months ago by roke1960
jhomeslice

I’ve had alcoholics in my family. Truly self destructive tendencies. I’m not trying to exaggerate here, but I do think TLR seems to be prone to almost crazy decisions that nobody can understand. Yes, it almost does seem like sabotage. Maybe sub-consciously it is. He may not even be aware of it. He is not fit for his job, that is totally obvious.

Last edited 3 months ago by jhomeslice
As Cirensica

Somebody has to start noticing…the players, Cairo, Hahn. Something needs to be done. This level of uncompetency is beyond belief

jhomeslice

It’s sad. I mean as much as I hate the fact that they hired him, I do feel sorry for him to a point. He is a lost soul. Hiring him at his age and with his baggage was so utterly ridiculous, this situation is way more Reinsdorf’s fault than his.