First Pitch: White Sox at Guardians

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Jim Margalus
Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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calcetinesblancos

I miss Romy already.

roke1960

Why does Grandal DH??? FIRE TONY NOW!!!

Adam

Appearantly Tony is not a podcast listener. Would have known to bat Elvis ahead of Yaz

Augusto Barojas

Or DH Sheets instead of Yaz.

Foulkelore

Nice start to get a couple of runs on the board, but man, it seems like every time Grandal comes up with runners on, he hits into a double play. Maybe play the lefty who got 4 hits yesterday?

calcetinesblancos

Yeah, weak infield grounders and being slow af is a bad combo.

Augusto Barojas

Not every bad decision the Russa makes costs them a game. But he has made so damn many that you know he’s cost them 5 or 6 games already, at least. Just blatant arrogance, stupidity, and ego on display, constantly.

dwjm3

Really stupid defense by Abreu…ball was straight to Harrison

tommytwonines

You guys are just making Tony angry with your Grandal dissing – he’s gonna go full-Hulk on you and bat him clean-up tomorrow.

Foulkelore

Hah, that’s probably true. I even like Grandal and understand the importance of trying to get him going. However, I don’t want him taking DH at bats, especially because that means Vaughn has to play the outfield (or one of Vaughn/Abreu sits).

soxygen

Also, why is Abreu playing 1B when he is dealing with hamstring tightness and we have so many potential first basemen? He could sit, or he could DH.

HouseOfTheRisingSox

Normally a 2-0 first inning lead would have me ecstatic, but feel like we missed an opportunity to have huge inning and then Lynn forced to throw a lot of extra pitches in bottom half. Nervous we will end up regretting both. Hope we keep pressure on in second inning

tommytwonines

Third inning.

Nellie Fox

Did Robert get traded?

Adam

I feel like we have a new Moncada. Not that he wasn’t always great on d and that last play. But he was busting it all game yesterday even in a blowout. I’m loving this version

HouseOfTheRisingSox

Did Naylor just mock Harrison with the motorcycle thing running to first after Harrison booted his grounder?

soxygen

I bet the Guardians wish they hadn’t traded Sandy Leon to Minnesota right about now

Nellie Fox

Why didn’t the Cleveland players keep him from getting hurt? Wow, too much I in the team attitude.

Adam

This teams approach at the plate is horrendous. Just keep throwing balls, they’ll swing

Nellie Fox

Same Sox hitting coach, same result….. Insanity

Right Size Wrong Shape

What’s with Vaughn and the high fastballs lately?

Adam

The last pitch to Vaughn was the only one that touched the strike zone box. 6 inches to a foot beyond it in any direction. Sox hitters are dying to swing

tommytwonines

How many swinging strikes in a row were there to end the fifth? Eight?

Adam

Lol there were. That is amazing

calcetinesblancos

Ok, that sucked but why was TLR bunting with a man on second? Am I missing something?

Nellie Fox

Actually not a bad idea with the score only 2-0 , the pitcher throws a lot of balls in the dirt, steal a run.

Adam

I hear a lot about the sox struggles with righties with sinker slider combos. The last three days don’t give much hope on curveballs either. It’s like the most mystifying pitch. Can’t hit it, can’t layoff it.

Nellie Fox

Reminds me of a cueto game.

Foulkelore

Hey, a middle infielder who can catch a throw from an outfielder cleanly!

Foulkelore

I miss home runs. It must be so cool for other fans to watch them.

Adam

I think we’d be having the Yankees year if we just moved the fences in 8 feet. Opponents homers are 15 rows deep so it wouldn’t hurt us. But we’d probably have 70 more homers, estimating low.

Right Size Wrong Shape

Incredible, Tony pulling a starting pitcher during “his inning”.

upnorthsox

Sarcasm?

Adam

101 pitches, 78 for strikes, 41 in the strike zone

dwjm3

Abreu determined to make pitcher cover first as he refuses to let Harrison field the ball

Last edited 3 months ago by dwjm3
Foulkelore

Does Engel catch that from the same starting position? Vaughn got nowhere close, but he’s so slow, I really can’t tell.

Adam

I don’t think so cause they were playing him opposite field. It did hang up though

Right Size Wrong Shape

I’m frankly just tired of having to ask the question. Playing him in right field just doesn’t work.

Adam

Especially since we’re still scoring 2-3 runs a game. If adding Vaughn meant 4-5 ok maybe. But it’s 2-3 since the all star break. So run prevention might be the way to go

Augusto Barojas

They have not had a legit major league rightfielder with a WAR over 1 in 3 years.

Last edited 3 months ago by Augusto Barojas
soxfan

The record for strikeouts in a nine inning game is 20, so to paraphrase Hawk, we can’t beat it but we might tie it.

dwjm3

Vaughn looked like he was running in cement boots going after that ball hit by Kwan

hellotowel

Cleveland fans have to be some of the most annoying people in baseball.

Adam

I live about an hour south. I can confirm this as true

Nellie Fox

Yes, cueto would have the same fate as Lynn tonite. Sox are a pathetic hitting team with no answers why.

Nellie Fox

Game… Set… Match. Fuck the shift !!!!

hellotowel

Just put this team out of its misery. Another pathetic display in a season chock full of them.

Foulkelore

Another intentional walk when ahead in the count. Wow.

Nellie Fox

This shit got to stop, lets walk the entire team.

Nellie Fox

Down by three, lets put another runner on base, wow

Foulkelore

This is an odd pinch hit decision.

Nellie Fox

Just resting Robert is the reason.

Nellie Fox

Lets look ahead, maybe larussa just pulled the last lineup card out of his pocket.

Augusto Barojas

Gee, might have been nice to know what a guy with 4 hits yesterday might have done with the 3 runners on base that Grandal stranded. This team is doomed until Tony is gone, obvious to everybody and maybe even including Jerry himself by now.

Adam

Holy cow. 100 mph to the face.

Foulkelore

Luckily it bounced off of his shoulder first.

Foulkelore

Tony, dude, just put in Engel for him. He just hit, he probably won’t come up again, his lip is split, Engel is a better baserunner, and can go play the outfield better in the 9th.

Foulkelore

Well, I guess it’s good he didn’t, since Eloy just hurt himself on a swing. This team is something else.

Adam

Hold that thought….Jesus…we can’t do anything without pulling a muscle

Nellie Fox

Fucking pansies !!!. Players make too much money to pretend they are Hurt.

Foulkelore

They get hurt way too often, but I’m sure they aren’t pretending to be hurt.

Adam

After Tony’s comments on Robert im only half sure. He said he thinks it’s a bruise not a sprain and they can’t shame him in to playing. That’s a really weird comment.

Right Size Wrong Shape

It’s also not fair to hold them to the toughness standard of commenter Nellie Fox. Cause that dude is just SOOOOOOO FREAKING TOUGH!!!! No one can live up to that.

Nellie Fox

No , the conditioning of this team sucks. When you tell your players not to hustle, then you encourage injuries. If a player can not give the team 100% effort every game, get a different occupation. That simple. Tough has nothing to do with it.

Nellie Fox

Vaughn gets hit in the face , that guy can play with a little pain. This team is so pathetic and out of shape to play more than 50 games a year. Evidence is Robert been gone for over a week, this guy will be gone for at least a week, Anderson hurts his finger and is gone until next month. Pathetic

Foulkelore

Tim tore a ligament in his hand and had to have surgery. What do you want him to do? Rip off his finger and keep playing?

Augusto Barojas

The finger surgery is a giant government conspiracy, I saw Alex Jones talking about Tim, he is clearly faking injury and part of the Illuminati.

Nellie Fox

I did not say Anderson is not hurt, just gone for a month. This is not his first time on the injured list

Right Size Wrong Shape

Why not? That’s what Nellie Fox would do. And then when he gets caught in a run down between second and third, he can throw his severed finger at the third baseman, temporarily distracting him and allowing him to make it to third. But will he stop there? No sir. He’ll just round third and deliver a precision scissor kick to the head of the catcher in order to ensure his safe passage home. The umpire would call him safe even though it’s obvious that he broke the Boster Posey rule, out of fear of Fox’s masculinity. From the safety of his office, the opposing manger would challenge the call, and it would be reversed in New York. The last report was that Fox was on a flight to New York to personally kick the review ump’s ass.

Nellie Fox

You are incredibly stupid

Right Size Wrong Shape

And you are incredibly TOUGH.

Nellie Fox

At least we can agree on that

Right Size Wrong Shape

Nicely done. 🙂

Right Size Wrong Shape

That’s right! That finger surgery is freaking PATHETIC! Back when I played in Little League NO ONE got finger surgery. Cause we were TOUGH!

Joliet Orange Sox

I’m not going to get involved in this debate about the toughness of players. @Nellie Fox has a sense of humor that I do not enjoy at all and I have trouble telling when he is being sarcastic and/or joking.

I am going to say something tangential to this debate that I do feel strongly about. I often read Sox Machine at my desk at work during lunch or an office hour no student shows up for or at home with my family in and out of the same room. I believe there has been a recent trend of the comments on this site becoming more and more NSFW. Until recently this was a site that I felt perfectly comfortable leaving open on my laptop on my office desk or at home where one of my kids might glance at it and I wish that was still the case.

I don’t see why it is necessary for offensive language (example) to be used to discuss a baseball team and I miss the days when more comments had numbers in them.

SoxCauldron

here! here! 648473

abehickock

This is the most out-of-shape professional sports team I’ve ever seen.

ForsterFTOG

The difference in athletic ability between these two teams is staggering.

charlie

I know Lopez has been great but Diekman was brought here to face tough lefties like Kwan

soxygen

The lineup and hook decisions tonight …were interesting.

Adam

Idk, this team lined up in any fashion…they all just took a rip at every single pitch thrown. You dont strike out 17 times by accident. Pitches in the dirt, at their shoulders, outside. This is one game I don’t think lineup construction mattered

ForsterFTOG

Turning into Mean Girls here just like SSS.
Pity.

Adam

Hey…talk about any sox player you want….you leave the good name of Mean Girls out of it. 5 stars in my book

Steve

Not mean. Dour.

charlie

Even though he’s been far more productive of late let’s not kid ourselves Moncada will continue to give you such poor at bats 95% of the time.

charlie

I mean really can you expect to go anywhere with terrible offense and defense?

Adam

My hope lately has been getting exposed. We could win a bad division 5 straight years and get bounced in the playoffs until the next rebuild. But maybe it’s better to get knocked down early, shine a light on your weaknesses, and address them.

Now….with our front office some may scoff at that. And they’d probably be right. But I’d like to think nobody is happy with this season and will act.