First Pitch: White Sox at Yankees

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Jim Margalus
Jim Margalus

Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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Foulkelore

I miss runs and when the Sox used to score them. I think it would be a bold strategy for them to do so again. I believe, if done properly, it could increase their chances of winning.

WHITESOX_RIGHT_SOX

Agreed. I don’t think it’s a coincidence their uninspired play has come on the heels of the TLR drama. Damn shame he can’t get out of the way of his ego.

metasox

regression was due

soxygen

I worry about the Tim Anderson bat flip bobblehead. What does the Tyler Duffey bobblehead think of that? Will the TLR bobblehead, who has a bobbblehead office, threaten to spank the Tim Anderson bobblehead, who only has a bobblehead locker?

Foulkelore

I would definitely purchase that whole action set.

soxygen

The Tony LaRussa bobblehead plays a Kinks song when you press his bellybutton:

We are the Office Block Persecution Affinity
God save little shops, china cups and virginity
We are the Skyscraper condemnation Affiliate
God save tudor houses, antique tables and billiards

soxygen

The interesting thing with the put out at 3rd is that a player is tagged out when touched by the hand or glove holding the ball. It looked to me like that Yoan tagged him with his wrist. Maybe he caught him with the glove, or maybe we just caught a break.

Joliet Orange Sox

Vaughn!

Foulkelore

In Yankee Stadium vs. Chapman. I think it’s safe to say he’ll always remember that.

Even after the Vaughn’s homer, Stone keeps insisting that Mercedes and Vaughn both hit Chapman hard. Mercedes’ fly out had an exit velocity of 83.7 mph. Vaughn’s home run had an exit velocity of 109.8 mph. Hitting the ball hard is apparently a very wide category.

soxfan

I think I’d rather have Grandal running and Mendick hitting for Garcia.

Red_Hair_White_Sox

Bottom of the 9th and extra inning outfield would be Vaughn – Mendick – Lamb, from left to right.

That’s a big yikes

soxygen

I’d rather have Grandal behind the plate for the 9th/10th.

soxygen

If Hendricks does not pitch today it will be 11 pitches over the last 9 days and 8 games.

soxfan

You can hear Bennetti’s eyes rolling when he mentions that Bummer is in instead of Hendricks.

soxygen

The key difference for Tony is that this time in the 9th inning of a tie game the bases are loaded with 1 out rather than just runners at 1st and 2nd with no outs.

soxygen

You could hear it when Hendricks came in to the game too – Jason said “I’m sure Liam would have preferred a clean inning…” Um, yeah.

metasox

I can see giving him a clean inning. But hasn’t Bummer been their most consistent reliever? Hendriks is no sure thing. Given the matchups, I can understand going with Bummer to at least start things. People were complaining about Marshall the other night. Well, you got Bummer and Hendriks.

Trooper Galactus

And the intentional walk bites them in the ass. Big surprise. What moron calls for an IBB in the bottom of the ninth with a man on and one out?

roke1960

And what kind of moron would pitch to the batting champ with Tyler Wade on deck. You guys blind hatred of LaRussa is just stunning. I don’t like him either, but that move was such a no-brainer.

roke1960

His run meant absolutely nothing. Come on Trooper, you know better than that.

Trooper Galactus

No, but it meant extending the inning to the Yanks’ best hitter unless they got a double play, which is not exactly something worth the gamble in my opinion.

Joliet Orange Sox

My blind hatred of LaRussa goes back to the Carter administration. I’m willing to concede that without the benefit of hindsight a case can be made for and against the intentional walk.

metasox

But that run didn’t matter. Setting up lefty on lefty and a double play situation

Red_Hair_White_Sox

With a sinkerballer on the mound. He induced the ground ball but Wade hit it too softly. Just bad luck

Now the decision to start the 9th with Bummer? That’s bad managing. Your closer hasn’t pitched in over a week and you put him in with bases loaded and one out against Aaron Judge??????

metasox

Am not so sure. I haven’t seen every game but I have seen some pretty shaky Hendriks outings. If the reason not to use him is only not having the lead then it is questionable. But if the reason is that Bummer is pitching well and those are good matchups, I can understand it.

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soxygen

Was he pitching well? It didn’t seem that way to me, but that’s just one fan’s perspective. He seemed tapped out.

Just John

Right?!

What is Bummer’s GIDP rate w man on first? 15%?

So, that’s an 85% chance Judge reaches the plate. Buffoonery.

Flitcraft

I ain’t kidding angry beyond rationality.

Everything is wrong. That is how it is meant to be.

metasox

Sox had two close games and one stinker against a hot Yankee team in NY. Everything isn’t wrong

Root Cause

Where are these people to claim that a manager only affects the win/loss a couple of times a year? I want an explanation, please!

jhomeslice

News flash… playing the Yankees instead of their hapless AL central opponents… not the same. Now I believe the Sox record is 6-9 versus teams over .500, much like last year. Which means they are great at beating bad teams, but not so much against teams the likes of which they will face in the playoffs. You can’t win a pennant with an outfield this bad. Not their fault, who would have thought that their 3 best outfielders would all get serious injuries at the same time, lasting multiple months.

I was convinced that literally anybody would be a better manager than Renteria. They hired maybe the only person possible where that does not hold true. Why would he wait to bring Liam in until bases loaded, one out in the 9th when Bummer already pitched the 8th, and Hendricks hasn’t pitched in 3 days?

metasox

In the press conference after, he talked about the matchups. I think that is reasonable.

There is so much focus on La Russa. He has a good staff around him. He always seems to be talking with them in the dugout. It isn’t like he is doing things on his own. Some things work out, some thngs don’t. Maybe they should recalibrate and try to get Hendriks in more. But I can’t fault them for relying on Bummer.

Trooper Galactus

In less than two months a critical LaRussa gaffe has arguably cost them in at least a half dozen games. That’s a lot of, “some things don’t.”

metasox

Admittedly, I haven’t gone back and done any analysis. But that logic seems to assume that the Sox would win every one of these games if La Russa had just made a different decision. Best case, this would have been a tie game going into extras. La Russa got them to that point. I hate to sound like an apologist, but is no credit given for getting them to that point, coming from behind in this game.

Trooper Galactus

LaRussa didn’t get them to that point. In general, he’s run out sub-optimal lineups regularly with a superlatively talented roster. Managers tend not to matter much, but in the critical moments where his decisions have a drastic effect on their odds of winning, he continually screws it up. Even knowing nothing is guaranteed, he’s a big problem.

670WMAQtheElder

The Yankees are hot and we are not. TLR blew our best chance Friday night by keeping Marshall in after he gave up two consecutive base hits. Yesterday was a blow out. Today Hendricks should have started the 9th or been brought in after Frazier’s single.

But the real problems, and it’s no surprise after losing Jimenez and Robert, are the roster and Grandal. We can’t start a catcher hitting only .130-.140 something. Walking every AB only works in Little League. That leads to the roster problem. Can Collins replace Grandal everyday and be more productive? Perhaps we should see sooner than later. As Rodon showed Friday, great pitching needs hitting. Mendick, Garcia, Eaton and Hamilton are not everyday players. Vaughn is a work in progress. MLB exposes weakness, and maybe this roster, with Engel back, gets us the woebegone AL Central title or the Wild Card, but it won’t get us playoff wins. Hahn needs to find MLB caliber reinforcements, which means trades, because there is no help in Charlotte, certainly not Goodwin. Milwaukee wasn’t content to let their season die because of injuries, so they dealt with Tampa last week.