White Sox Minor Keys: Aug. 21, 2018

Jose Abreu is going to head on the disabled list after undergoing an outpatient procedure on his lower abdomen. That could open up a spot for Eloy Jimenez, but it seems like Jose Rondon is the lucky winner for the time being, as he didn’t appear in Knights’ doubleheader against Norfolk.

It won’t be anybody who played, as the nightcap didn’t end until 1:58 a.m. local time.

Norfolk 15, Charlotte 3 (Game 1, 9 innings)

  • Seby Zavala went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts.
  • Eloy Jimenez was 0-for-2 with a walk.
  • Ryan Cordell, 2-for-4 with a double and a strikeout.
  • Jordan Stephens before the suspended game: 3 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 2 HR
  • Carson Fulmer: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
  • Rob Scahill had to wear it: 1 IP, 8 H, 9 R, 9 ER, 1 BB, 0 K

Charlotte 3, Norfolk 2 (Game 2, 7 innings)

  • Charlie Tilson went 1-for-3 with a walk and a strikeout.
  • Welington Castillo struck out thrice and walked once.
  • Eloy Jimenez, 2-for-4.
  • Seby Zavala went 2-for-4 with a double.
  • Ryan Cordell homered, singled, walked and struck out.
  • Ian Hamilton: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

Jacksonville 3, Birmingham 1

  • Joel Booker went 1-for-4 with two strikeouts.
  • Luis Basabe wore the collar with silver sombrero.
  • Zack Collins also struck out thrice, adding a walk.
  • Danny Mendick went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts.
  • Bernardo Flores: 5 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K

Myrtle Beach 6, Winston-Salem 4 (Game 1, 8 innings)

  • Luis Robert went 1-for-4 with a double and a strikeout.
  • Luis Gonzalez and Nick Madrigal both were 0-for-4, with Madrigal caught stealing.
  • Blake Rutherford went 1-for-4 with a strikeout.
  • Gavin Sheets singled twice and struck out once.
  • Ti’Quan Forbes went 1-for-3 with a double and a strikeout.

Kannapolis 3, Greensboro 0 (Game 1, 7 innings)

  • Luis Curbelo went 0-for-2 with a walk and a strikeout.
  • Steele Walker went 1-for-3 with a homer and a strikeout.
  • Carlos Perez was 1-for-3 with a double.
  • Justin Yurchak, 0-for-3.
  • Evan Skoug was 1-for-3.

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*Walker’s homer courtesy of Our Man in Kannapolis:

Kannapolis 5, Greensboro 3 (Game 2, 7 innings)

  • Luis Curbelo went 2-for-4.
  • Steele Walker, 1-for-3 with a double.
  • Carlos Perez was 1-for-3 with a strikeout.

Great Falls 14, Ogden 5

  • Romy Gonzalez went off: 4-for-6 with two homers, a double, a strikeout and eight RBIs.
  • Lenyn Sosa was 1-for-6 with a strikeout and a stolen base.
  • Amado Nunez went 1-for-6 with a homer.
  • Gunnar Troutwine singled thrice, walked once and struck out once.
  • Maiker Feliz went 2-for-4 with a walk and two strikeouts.
  • Codi Heuer: 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K

DSL D-backs1 11, DSL White Sox 3

  • Sidney Pimentel hit his second homer and struck out three times.
  • Jose Rodriguez was 2-for-4 with a double, and was picked off/caught stealing.

Winston-Salem vs. Myrtle Beach Game 2, PPD

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Brett R. Bobysud

Has Collins progressed enough defensively this year to warrant starting 2019 at Charlotte?

Trooper Galactus

If Omar Narvaez is any indication, Collins’ defense won’t be something that holds him back.

ndsoxfan

Man Narvaez looks like shit back there

Trooper Galactus

The numbers match the eye test.

mikeyb

His SB% allowed is bad again after a promising end to 2017, although that’s pretty pitcher-dependent. He’s still allowing passed balls at a pretty awful rate. It does sound like the Sox still plan on riding him as a catcher for a while. I do like that he and Seby are getting more chances to catch now that they’re split up; I wouldn’t hate seeing him start at AA next season for a month or so to keep getting defensive reps.

PauliePaulie

Has his offense?
He had 1 lucky BABIP fueled month of success.

Smclean09

He is 4th in the southern league in wRC+. We can debate a lot about Collins prospectdom, but yes he offensively ready to be challenged at AAA

sgp2204

He had 5 home runs that month and walked more than he struck out. Not sure “lucky” is a word I’d use.

Let’s also keep in mind that he plays most his games in a HORRIBLE park for hitters. I’d be more than happy to let him play everyday in Charlotte next year. If they don’t want him and Seby to split time at DH, they can send Seby back to BHam for all I care. It’s not like he was more “deserving” of a promotion. 

Jason.Wade17

Seby is more likely to be in Chicago next year than Birmingham.

sgp2204

That’s fine with me. I don’t really care where he is, as long as he’s not slowing down Collins. 

Brett R. Bobysud

Seby might very well start next year on the 40-man as the 3rd catcher, depending on what happens with Castillo & Smith.

Jason.Wade17

Ryan Cordell is hitting .309/.347/.471 in August after missing most of the season to injury. I would have liked to see him get called up instead of Lamarre. He’s already 26 and on the 40 man. I would guess he will get called up in a week and a half when the roster expands, but he’s intriguing for me.

Trooper Galactus

It’s sad how much injuries have derailed his career, and he still looks like he has five tool potential in center field.

PauliePaulie

Giving Tilson and Cordell their shot is why I am nowhere near jumping on the “sign A.J. Pollock” train.

mikeyb

But Cordell’s best case is probably a poor man’s Pollock (and Tilson’s is a homeless-man’s Pollock). If the Sox think Pollock can be the starting CF on their next contender, I’m all for signing him.

Trooper Galactus

Pollock’s awesome, but he’s just never healthy. I wouldn’t count on that narrative changing in his 30s.

mikeyb

Cordell and Tilson say hello from the infirmary.

Trooper Galactus

Well, nobody’s paying them $15 million a year to be there.

PauliePaulie

I don’t mean an audition for starter on a contending team.I mean as potential 4th OF on contender or trade piece to acquire talent for a contender.
Pollock’s health combined with possible positive outcomes from either of the Luises or Walker precludes me from wanting Pollock signed past 2020.
IMO- Not $ well spent.

mikeyb

Auditions from 4th OFs who themselves can’t stay healthy are pretty low on my priority list. I don’t see a contender giving up anything of value for either of those guys.

Also, I think there’s about a 10% chance of Walker sticking in CF long-term (although he could become a pretty great 4th OF in his own right).

PauliePaulie

Yes. Having patience during a rebuild is tough.
Our own FO proved it by badly jumping the gun only 3 short years ago.

Eagle Bones

Cordell seems stretched in CF and, given his complete lack of power, Tilson needs to be WAY better than he showed defensively to justify anything resembling a starting role. I don’t think I’d let either of them stand in the way of a real solution from outside.

sgp2204

Agreed. Pollock on a 3 year deal makes a ton of sense. Next year is a no brainer. Barring something spectacular happening, none of our potentials long term CF’s will be ready for a promotion to the bigs.

Realistically, if everything goes well, we’re looking at mid-to-late 2020 for potential callups of Basabe/Robert, maybe even 2021 for Robert. So that’s at least half of Pollock’s contract gone, maybe even 2/3rds. Even if someone is ready sooner than expected, I don’t think they’d have a hard time moving on from Avi, opening up another OF spot. Then, in the final year, if everything goes well with development and we have multiple guys ready, we can rotate outfielders as needed. It’s not that hard to get 4 OF’ers consistent playing time, especially in the AL. 

If we don’t sign someone like Pollock next year, where going to be stuck with another year of 4th/5th outfielders in the starting lineup. Even if Pollock gets injured, our lineup won’t be any different than it is this year. Then Cordell/Tilson can get their chances. Completely worth the risk IMO. 

The only question mark is whether we could get AJ to sign a 3 year deal or not. If we overpaid in dollars to get the years down, I’d have a hard time believing he wouldn’t be willing to sign for 3 years. Give him something like 3/$90M. Our payroll is incredibly low right now, and there’s really nowhere we’ll be spending big money on in the near future, unless they legitimately plan on going after a Machado/Arenado. Outside of that, the only player I can think of that would need an extension during that span is Rodon. Every other spot should be filled with young, cheap players. 

5742mail

Luis Robert is the better choice, stop thinking you need to stop at every level. His defence is major league ready. The outfield is loaded with talent down to low A level. Third base is something that needs to be looked at. Does anyone know what the hitting philosophy is?

mikeyb

Luis Robert? In an organization that won’t promote Eloy before he plays in 100 games or whatever, Robert is going to jump on up to the MLB level that quick? A guy who hasn’t hit a single HR at any level this year, but is still striking out nearly 30% of the time? A guy who has played basically a half a season in the past 3 years? I think he’s gonna need a few years in the minors.

Trooper Galactus

Robert’s having trouble barreling up pitchers in High-A. He has a lot of catching up to do before we can even consider him for a starting gig.

5742mail

Right now Robert is probably better than Engel.

Right Size Wrong Shape

Is that the bar?

Smclean09

Seeing a major leaguer play CF for the first time in 3 years is why everyone else is

Brett R. Bobysud

Interesting development.

Per James Fegan, Ryan Burr is in Chicago.

Brett R. Bobysud

Luis Avilan has been traded to the Phillies for RHP Felix Paulino. That would explain Burr’s promotion.

Brett R. Bobysud

Paulino is a 23-year old RHP who was currently starting for the Phillies AA affiliate in Reading. He spent the first half of the season at High-A Clearwater. He started the year as a relief pitcher and only converted to starting in July.

ndsoxfan

Not great results yet – but worth a shot.  We are pretty stocked up on left handed relievers 

GrinnellSteve

He was a starter until some time last year. He was moved back to the rotation when he went to AA. Scouting the stat line, he doesn’t look like anything special. Maybe that’s why you don’t scout stat lines.

mikeyb

Short guy who it sounds like can get it up to 95 mph in relief, sits low 90s when he starts, 4 pitches but none of the off-speed stuff sounds impressive. Could be an interesting relief project, especially if they can get him to just focus on cleaning up just 2 or 3 pitches.

lil jimmy

Avilan had one year of arbitration left. Doesn’t fit. Didn’t need him.

Trooper Galactus

Not when we have Aaron Bummer waiting for another crack at the Bigs!