Lack of power brings May Flowers?

Remember these nuggets from the end of spring training?

4. Tyler Flowers, C — With Brent Lillibridge falling short of expectations, the Javy Vazquez deal is starting to look one-sided, especially with Flowers looking lost at the plate this spring.
In other words, re-sign A.J. Pierzynski.
Keeper or trade bait: Trade bait.

and…

Tyler Flowers’ unimpressive spring showing makes it more likely the White Sox will look to extend catcher A.J. Pierzynski’s contract during the season. …

I wonder if Joe Cowley and Phil Rogers would like to revisit those statements.  Flowers received bloatloads of grief for his 2-for-18 performance in games that don’t count, but it’s been quiet on the Pierzynski front, even though he:

  • Is hitting .171/.227/.195
  • Owns a sterling 15 OPS+
  • Has more GIDPs (two) than RBI (one)

Yes, give that man a new contract!
Pierzynski’s probably not getting a lot of attention because the other slow starts are perhaps more noteworthy. Jake Peavy was supposed to be an ace, Mark Kotsay’s Sox career is tanking, Carlos Quentin has the foot issues, and the guy Juan Pierre replaced is leading the American League in hitting.
(There’s no such case for Freddy Garcia.  His “problems” have received plenty of ink, even though with one great start and one terrible one, he’s done exactly what’s expected of him.)
Aesthetically, though, Pierzynski’s start might be the ugliest.  Erik at Pale Hose Pariah highlighted his problems with the way he swings at everything, but you can go deeper.  Pitchers aren’t even trying to fool him — they’re throwing him fastballs 70 percent of the time. And he’s responding by hitting more than half his batted balls on the ground.
But because Pierzynski doesn’t strike out as much, everything is relatively cool.
Flowers, meanwhile, is having the exact kind of start he needed at Charlotte.  He’s hitting .314/.415/.571, and nine strikeouts in 35 at-bats marks an improvement upon last year’s contact issues (he struck out roughly once every three at-bats in Charlotte last season).  It’s early enough that one golden sombrero can put him right back where he started, but there isn’t one way to knock his offensive game at this time.
If both players maintain their current performances through the end of the month, it’s going to present a hell of a conundrum for Ozzie Guillen and Kenny Williams.  Combine Pierzynski’s self-preservation instincts, the pitching staff’s preference to throw to Pierzynski, Ozzie Guillen and the media’s anti-strikeout slant, and the fact that Williams has been deferential for the last six months … there’s no way it could go smoothly, right?
At least there’s some silver lining.  If this is a Hindenburg of a season and Pierzynski is in the center of it, Flowers should get plenty of low-pressure at-bats to figure out catching and hitting in the major leagues.  Sadly, a collapse might be needed to give him any benefit of the doubt.
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But before we start writing off the season, I took a look through the last few playoff seasons to see how many teams were able to overcome a slow start and fight their way into the postseason.  The Sox may be five behind the Twins already, but recent history says it can be overcome.
2009 Los Angeles Angels: Started 4-8, then 6-11 (5 1/2 games back).  They were .500 as late as June 2, but winning streaks of seven, six and eight games over the next two months allowed them to pull away with the AL West.
2009 Colorado Rockies: Started 4-8 (5 1/2 games back), and hit a low-water mark of 20-32 (15 1/2 back). Of course, winning 17 out of their next 18 helped.
2008 Tampa Bay Rays: Were 9-11 on April 22, five games back. They then won six in a row to put them in a tie for first.
2007 Colorado Rockies: Started 7-11 (six games back), and were nine games below .500 as late as May 21. They won 14 of their last 15 games to make the playoffs.
2006 Minnesota Twins: Were 9-16 and nine games back at the start of May. A 21-2 run in June going into July put them back into the playoff hunt, and eventually they took the division.
The common thread is that all of these teams needed a massive hot streak (or several minor ones) to climb back into contention, and that great run was something the Sox couldn’t pull off last year. And yes, the current edition of the White Sox seems awfully familiar.
There is one difference.  Last April, the Sox were held to zero or one run in five games.  The 2010 team? Just once, and they haven’t been shut out yet. Scoring two or three runs a game isn’t much to hang a hat on, but at least it allows a pitcher to make a mistake (see Garcia’s first start against Minnesota this year as a terrific example).
Is that encouraging? Not particularly, but there’s not much to work with right now.  It’s still going to take otherworldly starting pitching — the kind that has been noticeably absent thus far — but it’s not like we didn’t already know that going in.
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Actually, Podsednik, 34, and Pierre, 32, hold a few career similarities. Both have membership in good standing as part of the exclusive elite leadoff fraternity.

*Gordon Beckham vouches for Greg Walker:

“We changed my swing,” Beckham said. “If you go back and look at the tape, my hands were by my head and I was very stiff, and within a month, I had my hands shoulder level and was very relaxed at the plate and hit .330 [in July].
“[Walker] got me through hopefully the toughest time of my career at the start when I struggled so bad, and when everyone was saying I shouldn’t be up there, I shouldn’t be playing, I shouldn’t be in the big leagues. He didn’t believe that. He believed I should’ve been there and just got me through it.”

*Oral Sox has a new podcast up.
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Minor league roundup:

  • Durham 11, Charlotte 2
    • Erick Threets left the game after one batter with an injury.
    • Carlos Torres wasn’t sharp: 5 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, 1 HR.
    • Flowers went 0-for-2 with two walks, and picked off a runner at second.
    • Dayan Viciedo hit his first homer, a solo shot. Part of a 2-for-4 day.
    • Jordan Danks went 1-for-3 with a double, an HBP and a strikeout.
    • C.J. Retherford went 0-for-4.
    • Former Sox farmhand Heath Phillips held the Knights to one run over five innings.
  • Jacksonville 4, Birmingham 2
    • John Shelby went 2-for-5, but was picked off/caught stealing.
    • Brent Morel went 1-for-4 with an RBI and was hit by a pitch, but was also caught stealing.
    • Christian Marrero went 1-for-5.
  • Winston-Salem 4, Myrtle Beach 1 (11 innings)
    • Justin Edwards pitched seven strong innings, allowing one run (solo homer), three hits and three walks while striking out six.
    • Dan Remenowsky closed it out with two scoreless innings, striking out three. He allowed a hit and a walk.
    • Justin Greene went 2-for-3 with a triple and two RBI. He was picked off/caught stealing.
    • Jon Gilmore went 1-for-3 with a sac fly and a strikeout.
  • Kannapolis 7, Hickory 0
    • Joe Serafin struck out six over six shutout innings (three hits, three walks).
    • Juan Silverio went 2-for-3 with a walk and an RBI. He also committed his fifth error, this one at third.
    • Kyle Colligan went 2-for-4 with a double, a walk, an RBI and a strikeout.
    • Miguel Gonzalez resumed 0-for-4ing.
    • Trayce Thompson singled, walked and struck out twice.

Larry notes that Brady Shoemaker was sent down to extended spring training and Justin Collop was placed on the DL.  Looks like we might be getting a long look at Thompson in A-ball.

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    Writing about the White Sox for a 16th season, first here, then at South Side Sox, and now here again. Let’s talk curling.

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knoxfire30

It seems like from 2007 to 2010, the sox have been in the halfway rebuild, halfway compete mode. This year I really hope the team allows them to either contend or sell by the deadline. And I mean extreme on either side of that coin. Go out and get a huge bat if they are in contention or start selling off everything if they tank. Its an easy rebuild process you can move PK, AJ, Jenks, almost immediately if we fall out of contention. Then you can try and get Pierre and Linebrink off the books (not as big a pipedream as it once seemed), then you can look deeper at much tougher decesions like moving quentin (lets face it he is about to be expensive and his injurys and up and down track record have to make you listen) and matt thornton, rebuilding teams dont need stud setup men, and he could bring back one sure fire prospect in the right deal.

bigfun

I don’t know if it’s so easy to move Konerko, he has a full no-trade clause and first basemen with moderate power are not exactly a high demand commodity.

knoxfire30

He is on record as saying he would waive it, I think teams like atlanta, nymets, tampa, seattle, and anyone who needs a dh or if an injury occurs to a team in contention could use pk. Not saying we are gonna get a top prospect back but maybe a couple middle of the road AA arms with potential.

ricksch

Knox, your “halfway rebuild” thought has merit and it’s mostly based on cash. 2006 was the last year the Sox decided to damn the cost when they picked up Thome’s contract in an attempt to repeat. Since then, they’ve acquired only enough quality players to remain competitive, or basically a .500 team. Let’s face it, everyone knew this year’s line-up was weak. They needed lights-out pitching to win. Instead three out of our five starters have struggled and Thornton has basically blown two games. They could have paid up for Damon or anyone who could have REALLY helped them, but why spend? This is all about money with JR and Co. They talk the talk but all they are concerned about is creating the illusion that they are going to compete. We all drunk the Kool-Aide of hopefulness, but most of us knew these empty calories were coming back to haunt us. Personally, I’d like to see either an eight game winning streak or eight game losing streak so I can either get back into this or shitcan the whole season.
I think Peavy will definately come around. Waiting for the Sox to reel off 7-8 wins reminds me too much of last year to want to sit still for this.

knoxfire30

sox spent a lot of peavy and rios so I dont quite follow the money allocation, if they wanted a big bat they could have bid on holliday or bay but realistically those would have been very shortsighted moves and came back to haunt them
staff is going to be good for the next 3 years im not concerned about that, its a matter of surrounding said staff with a lineup that can produce, im pretty sure this one will struggle almost all year

ricksch

forget about Holliday and Bay — bullshit National League bats. Sox had the perfect fit, Figgins, whom they loved from afar for years. But they just didn’t want to pay him. Damon could have helped out our lineup at the end, but they didn’t want to spend the money. Thome would be better than having the useless Nix on the roster, but . . . apparently the cookie jar was empty.

bigfun

I think the halfway rebuild is fine if done correctly. Floyd/Gonzalez and Danks in the 2006-2007 offseason were great semi-rebuild moves. And think about the Vazquez trade in 2008-2009 – it may have been motivated in part by personalities, but they were still trading away a solid veteran for prospects going on a year when they were going to have to defend a division title. That takes some smarts.
I like the idea of a full rebuild in theory because I’ve been asking for a better farm system and more cost-effective home-grown talent for ages now. But I think a team like the White Sox, with its payroll and fanbase, can also succeed via partial rebuilds.

knoxfire30

well its not a full rebuild where you would have everyone on the trade block like even mb, floyd, danks, beckham, but you get my point on wanting to go a little further then the bandaid jobs they have been pulling lately.

striker

This is funny. We are 4-9, 13 games into the season and people are talking about rebuilding. I could see this conversation at the end of May or June sometime if we were 20 games out, but it’s April still and we are 5.5 games back.

knoxfire30

slow news day, mlbtr also ran an article about if the sox become sellers

ricksch

I think we all know that only 14, now 15, games have been played. It’s just that the team has had an ample chance to show who and what they are, and not one single Sox fan should like what they see.
If this season turns out to be a bust, I hope at least it serves to flush Guillen. His ridiculous rants show him to be the seat-of-your-pants moron that he is. He talks all day about taking blame, but never mentions what he should be blamed for! His handling of the pitching staff and game-day situational managing has never been anything special.
One of the big problems you can actually see with Guillen relates to character and the insider clubbiness he brought to the team. Guillen gets pissed and lets his tongue wag at anyone and anything. He ends up sounding like an idiot 99% of the time. It may seem “colorful” when your team is in contention, but not when your flagging. Oz seems more concerned with Twitter than actually managing the team. Could you even imagine Bobby Cox or Joe Madden wanting a Twitter account? Then we have Ozzie’s no-count extended family. Who the hell needs his spoiled ungrateful son on the team payroll? I hope Oney is out for good and the rest of Guillen’s kids follow. Our 5th starter is on the team because he’s related to Oz and will get far more chances than, oh, let’s say DJ Carassco, to prove his worth, or lack thereof. Bottom line, who needs this sort of rampant nepotism and buddy f–king? It all started with Cora, a mediocre player who road Ozzie’s coattails for years. People talk about Cora as if he has some credibility, but on what basis please?
Finally, there was a poll of MLB players taken a while back that showed that Ozzie was not a guy many were inteested in playing for. That could only hurt the team in its future acquisition of talent, which it so desperately needs.

ricksch

To your point, Peavy could work well for us down the line and may be a “ray” of sunshine after tonight’s embarassment. I guess we’re down to one productive starter, insofar as ERA? I hate to be so negative so early in the season, but I felt going into the season that we absolutely had to get off to a good start. 5-10. Not so good.
It’s deflating after looking forward to the season and wanting to believe that some of these big question marks like Quentin and Rios would turn out well. No one outside of Jones is putting up any credible numbers. Is this all we can hope for from Rios? $9-12 mil a year for this!
God help us if Peavy doesn’t start producing.