Comments on: After dive, no more Dome http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/ A Chicago White Sox blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:35:04 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: stopdrop8 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-757 stopdrop8 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:50:53 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-757 The way I see it there's three possible ways to go about it. 1. Offer Dotel arbitration, he accepts, and we trade jenks. We get dotel, 2 million dollars leftover from what Jenks would have made and whatever we can get for Jenks. 2. Offer him arbitration and he declines, we get a first round draft pick and probably keep Jenks. 3. Do not offer him arbitration. Then either trade Jenks and save around 8 million dollars plus get whatever players in return from the trade, or keep Jenks. I guess it depends on how much more value they think Jenks has than Dotel. We probably can't afford to lose both. I think the best possible situation would be the second one, but I don't think he'd decline arbitration. The way I see it there’s three possible ways to go about it.

1. Offer Dotel arbitration, he accepts, and we trade jenks. We get dotel, 2 million dollars leftover from what Jenks would have made and whatever we can get for Jenks.

2. Offer him arbitration and he declines, we get a first round draft pick and probably keep Jenks.

3. Do not offer him arbitration. Then either trade Jenks and save around 8 million dollars plus get whatever players in return from the trade, or keep Jenks.

I guess it depends on how much more value they think Jenks has than Dotel. We probably can’t afford to lose both. I think the best possible situation would be the second one, but I don’t think he’d decline arbitration.

]]> By: Jim Margalus http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-756 Jim Margalus Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:02:00 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-756 Yup. He pitched well enough to not take a salary cut, at least for a one-year deal. If they find a taker for Jenks, it wouldn't be an awful move. But he wouldn't be a good value, either. Yup. He pitched well enough to not take a salary cut, at least for a one-year deal. If they find a taker for Jenks, it wouldn’t be an awful move. But he wouldn’t be a good value, either.

]]> By: knoxfire30 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-755 knoxfire30 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:52:39 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-755 I think Dotel makes a tough case to get a lot more then 4 mil. He likely would get 6 or 7 if his case went to arbitration, I mean his teammate who isnt any good Linebrink makes 5.5 I think Dotel makes a tough case to get a lot more then 4 mil. He likely would get 6 or 7 if his case went to arbitration, I mean his teammate who isnt any good Linebrink makes 5.5

]]> By: stopdrop8 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-754 stopdrop8 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:33:00 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-754 Does anyone else think we should offer dotel arbitration? He would still be valuable in our bullpen at around 4 millions, especially if we trade jenks. And mlbtraderumors has him as a type a free agent, so if he declined we would get a first round pick Does anyone else think we should offer dotel arbitration? He would still be
valuable in our bullpen at around 4 millions, especially if we trade jenks. And mlbtraderumors has him as a type a free agent, so if he declined we would get a first round pick

]]> By: Jim Margalus http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-753 Jim Margalus Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:57:08 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-753 I think .360 would be only mildly optimistic. That's really if he makes some adjustments and doesn't experience a sophomore slump. A progressing Beckham and a healthy Quentin would be a fine 2-3 in the order. I think .360 would be only mildly optimistic. That’s really if he makes some adjustments and doesn’t experience a sophomore slump. A progressing Beckham and a healthy Quentin would be a fine 2-3 in the order.

]]> By: conor http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-752 conor Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:38:29 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-752 Jim, what kind of OBP can we expect Beckham to contribute over the long haul? I don't have him pegged as an automatic .400 like our last 2 HoF sluggres were, but he seems like he could crank and keep it above .350 pretty easily. If we bring back Thome and Quentin is healthy, I think Beckham, Konerko, and those aforementioned two comprise a solid if not stellar OBP base. Jim, what kind of OBP can we expect Beckham to contribute over the long haul? I don’t have him pegged as an automatic .400 like our last 2 HoF sluggres were, but he seems like he could crank and keep it above .350 pretty easily. If we bring back Thome and Quentin is healthy, I think Beckham, Konerko, and those aforementioned two comprise a solid if not stellar OBP base.

]]> By: striker http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-751 striker Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:01:49 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-751 Add Huston Street to that list. Add Huston Street to that list.

]]> By: soxexile http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-750 soxexile Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:24:17 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-750 I think the larger question about Thome is who we get to play DH if he doesn't return. Besides, finding a slugger to DH matters less at this point than getting some serious OBP elsewhere in the lineup, particularly from whomever replaces JD. Maybe we can hope that Getz & Beckham improve with maturity, TCQ may revert to 2008 form if healthy, Rios finds himself, and Paulie & A.J. don't decline with age, but that's an awful lot of things to hope for. I think the larger question about Thome is who we get to play DH if he doesn’t return. Besides, finding a slugger to DH matters less at this point than getting some serious OBP elsewhere in the lineup, particularly from whomever replaces JD. Maybe we can hope that Getz & Beckham improve with maturity, TCQ may revert to 2008 form if healthy, Rios finds himself, and Paulie & A.J. don’t decline with age, but that’s an awful lot of things to hope for.

]]> By: knoxfire30 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-749 knoxfire30 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:03:17 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-749 Im a big fan of keeping flowers service time in check by starting him at AAA. Im a big fan of keeping flowers service time in check by starting him at AAA.

]]> By: Jim Margalus http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/10/12/after-dive-no-more-dome/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Jim Margalus Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:00:50 +0000 http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/?p=728#comment-748 Hey, he's an artist of the grit. Hey, he’s an artist of the grit.

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