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	<title>Comments on: Go West, Old Men: What do the Thome, Contreras trades mean?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Margalus</title>
		<link>http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/09/01/go-west-old-men-what-do-the-thome-contreras-trades-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Margalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, if he succeeds ... you probably can&#039;t take issue with the league superiority debate for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, if he succeeds &#8230; you probably can&#8217;t take issue with the league superiority debate for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Margalus</title>
		<link>http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/09/01/go-west-old-men-what-do-the-thome-contreras-trades-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Margalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the past, he expressed doubts about his effectiveness out of the bullpen.  I don&#039;t know if it was really, &quot;I need a long time to get loose,&quot; or &quot;I just want to start.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past, he expressed doubts about his effectiveness out of the bullpen.  I don&#8217;t know if it was really, &#8220;I need a long time to get loose,&#8221; or &#8220;I just want to start.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Margalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Margalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not in the same way.  Blum and Kotsay also addressed defensive holes (backup middle infielder and first baseman, respectively).  Thome&#039;s only meant to hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in the same way.  Blum and Kotsay also addressed defensive holes (backup middle infielder and first baseman, respectively).  Thome&#8217;s only meant to hit.</p>
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		<title>By: max160709</title>
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		<dc:creator>max160709</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought we should put Contreras in the bullpen. In most of his starts he&#039;s rolled throught the first few innings and then gotten in trouble. except for the last start...that was just all trouble</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought we should put Contreras in the bullpen. In most of his starts he&#8217;s rolled throught the first few innings and then gotten in trouble. except for the last start&#8230;that was just all trouble</p>
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		<title>By: knoxfire30</title>
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		<dc:creator>knoxfire30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well PK and Linebrink can basically be given away in the sense that if the other team picks up those contracts we would be getting a lot of value back in my opinion.  Jenks and AJ I can see being useful stil for a couple more years each so... probably is going to take a lot more to pry one of those guys away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well PK and Linebrink can basically be given away in the sense that if the other team picks up those contracts we would be getting a lot of value back in my opinion.  Jenks and AJ I can see being useful stil for a couple more years each so&#8230; probably is going to take a lot more to pry one of those guys away.</p>
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		<title>By: striker</title>
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		<dc:creator>striker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind saying goodbye to Konerko, Jenks, Linebrink or Pierzynski this offseason. I just hope KW won&#039;t give them away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind saying goodbye to Konerko, Jenks, Linebrink or Pierzynski this offseason. I just hope KW won&#8217;t give them away.</p>
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		<title>By: knoxfire30</title>
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		<dc:creator>knoxfire30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade for a pinch hitter, um geoff blumm and mark kotsay immediately come to mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade for a pinch hitter, um geoff blumm and mark kotsay immediately come to mind</p>
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		<title>By: soxfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator>soxfan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thome is a class guy! One of the classiest ever to wear a Sox uniform. I&#039;m still shocked that the Dodgers made the deal. Trading for a pinch hitter hardly ever happens. Can anyone remember the last time, I can&#039;t. With all tht being said, I hope Kenny keeps backing up the truck. I can think of 5 or 6 guys that I&#039;d like to see gone by the beginning of 2010. How about: Colon, Dotel, Linebrink, Williams, Dye, Castro &amp; Kotasy??? I&#039;d re-sign Pods unless they can find a better leadoff hitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thome is a class guy! One of the classiest ever to wear a Sox uniform. I&#8217;m still shocked that the Dodgers made the deal. Trading for a pinch hitter hardly ever happens. Can anyone remember the last time, I can&#8217;t. With all tht being said, I hope Kenny keeps backing up the truck. I can think of 5 or 6 guys that I&#8217;d like to see gone by the beginning of 2010. How about: Colon, Dotel, Linebrink, Williams, Dye, Castro &amp; Kotasy??? I&#8217;d re-sign Pods unless they can find a better leadoff hitter.</p>
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		<title>By: knoxfire30</title>
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		<dc:creator>knoxfire30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Thome did everything a sox fan could have dreamed for when the acquired him in 06.  I wish I had links to posts of bloggers, newspaper articles and magazine articles talking about their expectation level of thome, &quot;20 homers and 80 rbi&#039;s&quot; &quot;Hope he can play about 100-120 games a year&quot; &quot;Maybe he can add a lefty presence we have been missing&quot; ect ect ect.  This guy FAR AND AWAY passed up those modest expectations and yet has managed to never get an ounce of credit that he has deserved for a bunch of stupid ass sox lure myths.  The same bums who LOVED joe credes 250 ave 310 obp line and brutally inconsistent offense hate jim thomes 250 ave that came with a 400 obp and the 30 and 95 that you could set you watch by.  Its a shame to see him go, but I just became a dodger fan for the last month of the season cause I would love to see him get the ring he has been after for so long. 

Dye, Dotel, Pods seem to be on notice as guys who wont be brought back, and im not ruling out a trade of PK or AJ during the offseason in an attempt to get some young guys on the field and create more payroll flexibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Thome did everything a sox fan could have dreamed for when the acquired him in 06.  I wish I had links to posts of bloggers, newspaper articles and magazine articles talking about their expectation level of thome, &#8220;20 homers and 80 rbi&#8217;s&#8221; &#8220;Hope he can play about 100-120 games a year&#8221; &#8220;Maybe he can add a lefty presence we have been missing&#8221; ect ect ect.  This guy FAR AND AWAY passed up those modest expectations and yet has managed to never get an ounce of credit that he has deserved for a bunch of stupid ass sox lure myths.  The same bums who LOVED joe credes 250 ave 310 obp line and brutally inconsistent offense hate jim thomes 250 ave that came with a 400 obp and the 30 and 95 that you could set you watch by.  Its a shame to see him go, but I just became a dodger fan for the last month of the season cause I would love to see him get the ring he has been after for so long. </p>
<p>Dye, Dotel, Pods seem to be on notice as guys who wont be brought back, and im not ruling out a trade of PK or AJ during the offseason in an attempt to get some young guys on the field and create more payroll flexibility.</p>
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		<title>By: matttherock</title>
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		<dc:creator>matttherock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  All of this is just stunning.  

I&#039;m not sure which is the better way to look at this... that you&#039;re getting rid of Contreras, or that you now have another #5-AAAA pitcher to play with.  Hynick&#039;s nothing special, but just unloading Contreras is shocking.  

From a Rockies fan perspective... I&#039;m alternating between shaking my head, trying to talk myself into it, and stupefied silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  All of this is just stunning.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure which is the better way to look at this&#8230; that you&#8217;re getting rid of Contreras, or that you now have another #5-AAAA pitcher to play with.  Hynick&#8217;s nothing special, but just unloading Contreras is shocking.  </p>
<p>From a Rockies fan perspective&#8230; I&#8217;m alternating between shaking my head, trying to talk myself into it, and stupefied silence.</p>
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