posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:25 AM by Jim

Small glove, big expectations

When it comes to defense, Josh Fields has a bullseye on his back, and I don't completely understand it.

Take Joe Cowley's pre-vacation parting thoughts:

That leaves Josh Fields, who is in dire need of a commitment to defense this winter.

And Scott Merkin:

That flexibility should contribute to improved defense at third base, a weaker area of Fields' game targeted by manager Ozzie Guillen during the 2008 season.

Maybe "lost cause" is too strong a phrase for Fields' glove, but it should be the least of anybody's concerns.  Two reasons:

No. 1:  Players generally don't improve drastically on defense at a position they've played all their lives.


When you hear about an infielder who has made strides with his defense at the big-league level, it almost always has to do with their throwing -- slowing the game down enough to repeat solid mechanics.  Once in a while, you might hear about somebody whose hands have improved.

But I can't think of one player who made massive improvements on his first step, which is the biggest difference between Fields and Joe Crede based on what I've seen.  There's nothing wrong with his arm, and they're limited on how much they can improve his hands if his problem is getting to the ball late.  Even practicing with Joey Cora and the world's tiniest glove won't change much.

No. 2:  Any reasonable improvement isn't going to stop the Sox from stinking in the field.

It takes a village to raise a team's defense, and when Brian Anderson isn't starting, the Sox don't have one guy on the field you could confidently describe as "average."  Wring your hands over the individual shortcomings all you want, but if Fields makes a big step to improve to "decent," Sox pitchers are still going to have to hold their breath when a hitter puts a ball in play.

This is the biggest reason for the Sox to pursue Mark Ellis.  As rough and unlucky a season as he had with the bat last year (.233/.321/.373), he was by far the premier defensive second baseman in the league, whether you go by plus-minus (+26) or zone rating (.868).  The other possible solutions -- Chris Getz, Mark Grudzielanek, Chone Figgins -- don't compare.

I'm not driving the Ellis bandwagon yet, but if the Sox signed somebody like him, then Fields' defense becomes a bigger issue.  The Sox would be only one or two more gloves away from being a solid support group for Sox pitching.  Even then, there's no reason to put the spotlight on Fields in particular.  It's not like he was ever considered a sterling defender.

Fields was drafted because he had a big bat and some promising secondary skills (strike zone judgment, speed).  It sounds like the knee surgery (the focus of Merkin's article) will take care of that last skill, which wasn't mentioned much despite it clearly affecting his baserunning.

The other two need big-time work, so I think he'd be better served by figuring out how to hit a belt-high fastball of 92 m.p.h. down the middle of the plate then converting a few more balls into outs on the field.  If he doesn't hit, he won't see enough time on the field to make the miniscule mitt time worth it, anyway.

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Arizona Fall League roundup:
  • Peoria 3, Phoenix 2
    • Lucas Harrell pitched a solid three innings, allowing a run on three hits and a walk while striking out two.
    • Aaron Poreda struck out the side during his inning, in which he allowed a hit and a walk.
    • Gordon Beckham went 0-for-3 with a strikeout.

Comments

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:58 AM by soxfan1
I love the idea of the Sox going after Mark Ellis!! Is he a FA or would we have to trade for him??
I'm 50:50 on Josh Fields. I'd like to see him stay with the Sox and play 3rd base but I am fearful that his defense won't cut it. I could see Kenny trading him to the A's or another low budget team.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:52 PM by Jim Margalus
Ellis is a Type B FA -- but he might be the most sought-after second baseman, if it's not Orlando Hudson.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:06 PM by Salty Dog
I'm one of those guys who's done with Fields. We don't need him. And given that I'm a pro-Uribe guy, I don't see how Fields would be an improvement in any way. He can't hit for anything, and his glove isn't better. So what's the upside?

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:20 PM by bobleeswagger
I know this doesn't really have much to do w/ Josh Fields, but is Furcal a free agent? If so, any chance the sox go after him to play short and hit lead off, then leave alexei at 2B?

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:41 PM by Andrew
He's a DH-in-training if I've ever seen one. My money's on a trade of Fields + a pitching prospect to either of Baltimore (for a rental on Roberts) or Seattle for Jose Lopez. Lopez may be wishful thinking, but the M's as an organization might be foolish enough to take it.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:07 PM by Jim Margalus
The upside is that he should be able to build off his .480 slugging percentage his rookie year and regain the form that allowed him to steal 28 bases in the minors in '06. I still think a hitting coach like Rudy Jaramillo could turn him into a beast, but the Sox don't have one of those.

Furcal is a FA, but it might be hard to get him out of Los Angeles. He also has some injury issues that the Sox might be able to minimize, but might make the Sox balk at his price tag at the same time.

Lopez is better than I thought. The first thing that came to my mind was his second-half crash of '07, but he rebounded to have a pretty steady year all the way around. Fielding Bible has him declining (+9 to +5 to 0), so I think I'd rather try the routes that only cost money before shipping cheap and possibly talented bodies.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:21 PM by striker
I'd love to see some radical changes this offseason that included getting rid of 2 of Thome, Konerko and Swisher, put Anderson in CF and put Fields at 1st. Sign or trade for 2 of 2B, SS or 3B, one or both have to have speed and OBP.

I still think Swisher has value in the trade market. How about Konerko and Swisher for Cain and Winn. Sign Hudson or Frucal.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:43 PM by Conor
"I'd love to see some radical changes this offseason that included getting rid of 2 of Thome, Konerko and Swisher, put Anderson in CF and put Fields at 1st. Sign or trade for 2 of 2B, SS or 3B, one or both have to have speed and OBP."

Does anyone realize how hard it would be to get rid of Thome? He has an iron clad no trade clause, and the the only other two teams he would play for will not trade for him (Cleveland, Chicago). Yes, his numbers indicate that he is not the thundering bad-ass of days past, but when compared to the rest of the DHs in the league, he's one of the better producers. His job is to protect our best hitters in the lineup, and even in a slump, having to face Thome after Quentin or Dye is not anyone's idea of a fun time.

Konerko isn't quite as useless on the market as Thome is, but if he doesn't want to go anywhere he isn't going anywhere. If he condtions better this offseason it wouldn't be outlandish for him to return to form. Even in 07 he managed to get his numbers back to around career norms. He'll never be HoF material, but he might crank out another 200 homers before he hangs it up. I'm still optimisitc about what Fields is capable of if healthy, but getting rid of Swisher to plug Fields at first? That might work for a fantasy league of under-achieving players, but if Swisher can build on the skills he has displayed in the past, we have a potential 30 HR 100 RBI 100 BB player who is good at corner outfield and 1st, and can man center if he has to. And what infielders stacked with speed and OBP did you have in mind that we can acquire? As for Anderson, he is our best defensive outfielder. I still root for him to turn it around with the bat, and it irritates me when he gets snubbed for having great springs. Going on what I knew then, I'm still pissed Ramirez got to start in center over him. Going on emotions only, I'd like to see Dye as our DH in 2010, with Quentin and Swisher as our corners, and Anderson in center (provided he can replicate any of his spring magic at the plate-even a line of .270/.330/.445 or something would be more than fine.


Mark Ellis isn't a bad idea, but if we got him it would be like getting socks for Christmas. Yeah, you probably need them, but it isn't the sexiest gift thats ever been bestowed upon thee.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:45 PM by M squared
Josh Fields adds another all or nothing .250 bat to the line up along with 150-200 strike outs if he plays all season. I do not see him as the future third baseman.

# re: Small glove, big expectations

Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:03 PM by Jim Margalus
I agree with basically everything Conor said, except I don't really have any hope for Anderson's bat. The Sox do need somebody to run down balls in center, and he fits the bill.