posted on Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:44 AM by Jim

Reality bites

Here's a fun paragraph from Phil Rogers:

General managers with shopping lists already are making calls to the Marlins and Royals (14 arbitration-eligible players) about possible trades. San Francisco, desperate for a proven bat, is expected to pursue one-dimensional second baseman Dan Uggla. The Giants also may kick the tires on first baseman Paul Konerko of the White Sox and Derrek Lee of the Cubs, both of whom have full no-trade clauses. They probably would have to deal a young pitcher—Jonathan Sanchez or Matt Cain. They're considered expendable because lefty Madison Bumgarner is climbing fast. …

Instead of "also may" in reference to their interest in Paul Konerko, it should read "will do anything but."  If anything, they'd probably be more likely to ask about Nick Swisher, considering:
  1. He's several years younger than Konerko.
  2. He's much more affordable than Konerko.
  3. He's likelier to be a part of the next contending Giants team before his deal expires than Konerko.
  4. He had success in the Bay Area with Oakland, and still owns a house in the area.
  5. He'd theoretically be helped by the league shift.
Swisher-Cain would be an interesting trade idea.  Though it favors the Sox on paper, both sides would have reason to be skeptical, with Swisher coming off a terrible year and Cain moving not only transferring to a tougher league, but from a pitcher's paradise to a hitters' haven.

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The White Sox official site should issue a pair of rose-colored glasses to everybody who reads this article about John Shelby. In a nutshell:

The offensive end? Well, that doesn't look like it's needing much help these days.

That's because it doesn't mention Shelby's walks or strikeouts.  Already lousy at Kannapolis in 2007, Shelby's ratio took a turn for the worse this past year at Winston-Salem:
  • 2007: 33 walks, 77 strikeouts in 538 plate appearances.
  • 2008: 22 walks, 95 strikeouts in 482 plate appearances.
He did hit .295 with 59 extra-base hits and 33 steals, but that's on the back of a .358 batting average on balls in play.  That's not sustainable for anybody with Shelby's lack of patience for anybody outside of Howie Kendrick, and Kendrick was able to shake doubters because he never hit lower than .342 in any of his minor-league stops above rookie ball.

I want to like Shelby because he has everything going for him outside of that flaw.  Unfortunately, that kind of command of the strike zone is a crippling shortcoming.

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Catching up with the Arizona Fall League action:
  • Peoria Saguaros 5, Peoria Javelinas 3 (Saturday)
    • Gordon Beckham doubled and struck out twice in four at-bats.
    • Cole Armstrong drew a pair of walks.
    • Stefan Gartrell singled and drove in a run.
    • Aaron Poreda threw a scoreless inning, walking one and striking out one.
  • Peoria Saguaraos 7, Peoria Javelinas 5 (Friday)
    • Carlos Torres gave up two runs on two hits and a walk in two-thirds of an inning.
  • Peoria 9, Mesa 2 (Thursday)
    • Lucas Harrell struck out three and walked one over two hitless innings.
    • Derek Rodrgiuez threw a scoreless inning, allowing a hit and a walk.
    • Armstrong went 2-for-5 with a double, two runs scored and two strikeouts.
    • Gartrell had a double, walk and RBI.

Comments

# re: Reality bites

Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:17 AM by MattTheRock
Everyone's favorite time: Brian Sabean Off-Season Shopping Spree!!! You never know what that wacky bugger will do... That's about the only credence I can give that story though. Outside of that it sounds like Rogers is pulling stuff from his ass again.

Seriously, Cain for Paulie would be highway robbery of the highest order. Sabean makes stupid signings, but I haven't seen him make too many stupid trad.. (Liriano, Nathan for AJ)... nevermind.

# re: Reality bites, substantially

Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:33 AM by Dr. Lingerie
Matt Cain, age 23 season, 2008:

Home: 120.1 IP, 106 H, 10 HR, 94:59 K:BB, 1.37 WHIP

Away: 97.1 IP, 100 H, 9 HR, 92:32 K:BB, 1.36 WHIP

No pronounced home/road split there (in fact, you could make the argument he was better on the road), plus he turned 24 on the 1st of Oct. And Phil Rogers just named him not as a pie-in-the-sky highway robbery-type return for Paulie, but a somehow necessary component of a trade for Mr. Heavyfoot. Sanchez for Lee is the only combination that makes even a lick of realistic sense there.

Brian Sabean is dumb, but apparently not Phil Rogers dumb.

# re: Reality bites

Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:38 PM by Jim Margalus
Rogers kept tying Juan Pierre to the Sox a couple years back, so I'm guessing this is just more aimless speculation.

That said, you forgot one key number, Doc -- Cain is 15-30 over the last two years. HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO WIN.

# re: Reality bites

Sunday, October 12, 2008 4:43 PM by Conor
Did Poreda throw just one inning?

# re: Reality bites

Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:09 PM by Jim Margalus
Yup, just one. Pluralization removed.