posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 3:50 AM by Jim

And he could've been gone



It was only three days ago that Juan Uribe was headed for Dumpsville.  Now, he's the toast of the team.

Turns out it's not that difficult to restore a reputation when everybody else on the team is sucking as much as he did over the past two weeks.

Uribe hit the first non-solo While Sox homer since April 26 in Thursday's 6-2 victory over the Minnesota Twins, but he overshadowed it later with a fierce takeout slide of Minnesota's (and Queensbury, N.Y.'s) Brendan Harris:

''Awesome,'' manager Ozzie Guillen said of Uribe's clean but ferocious slide. ''I was the first one that jumped out of my seat.

''When somebody hits a home run, I just sit there and wait for the guy to shake his hand, unless it's to win the game. But when I see plays like that -- clean, play the game the way they should be playing -- it's something we're missing.''

If Uribe was ever in danger of being cut (as in released, not as in ripped -- there's little chance of that), he's given himself quite a bit of breathing room.  But there's still some work to be done.

That's where Alexei Ramirez comes in.  Ramirez got the start at short as Orlando Cabrera got his first off day as a member of the White Sox, and while he didn't look pretty, he found ways to contribute.

One inning after the Sox offense embarrassed itself by not scoring with runners on second and third and nobody out, Ramirez started his own rally by singling on an 0-2 mistake by Juan Rincon, stealing his first career base and scoring on Carlos Quentin's single for a key insurance run.  One inning later, he reached on a Justin Morneau error (erroneously charged to Matt Tolbert) by busting butt down the line, which brought another runner home.

Doesn't Ramirez's formula for success sounds a little bit familiar?  A little, I don't know, Pablo Ozunaish?

I'd say so -- and that's not really a good thing.  One Ozuna on the roster is enough.  However, since Ozuna is a shadow of himself these days, I'd like to give Ramirez a chance to be a better Ozuna than Ozuna.  He has a higher ceiling, wider range of defensive capabilities and healthier, younger legs.  The only thing he lacks right now is experience.

He is learning, but playing once a week isn't enough of an education.  So I'd give him two starts over the three-game Seattle series.  Maybe in center, since Nick Swisher is down 0-2 before he even steps in the box these days and has struggled against both Jarrod Washburn and Miguel Batista (5-for-37 combined). 

Second base is a possibility, too, though not at the expense of Uribe.  Juan has hit all three Seattle pitchers well (and he owns Carlos Silva), but I'd like to see how well he plays third, as that would go another step toward figuring out how to replace Ozuna.  Crede has struggled against Wasburn and Batista, so that's another possibility.

Neither Washburn, Batista or Silva are fastball pitchers, so they probably don't play to Alexei's strengths, but that's kind of the point.  The problems caused by the floundering lineup are compounded by a bench that Guillen is afraid to play.

Give Ramirez a couple starts.  If he goes 0-for-8 and breaks six bats, then add Jason Bourgeois to the 40-man and give him a ride.  If he gets a couple hits and doesn't make any massive mistakes, then the Sox have their requisite human energy ball.  At this time, the only better options Ozzie has are in name only, so the Sox may as well use the weekend as an opportunity to let Ramirez learn, and to learn about Ramirez.

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Another possibility to replace the loser
of my imaginary-as-of-now Ramirez/Ozuna run-off is Jerry Owens, but the guy who's beating the drum for him isn't the obvious choice (hat tip to The Cheat):

CHICAGO - There appears to be a schism in the White Sox organization over what to do with Jerry Owens, who, though healthy, languishes at Triple-A Charlotte.

Sox general manager Ken Williams seems to be of the opinion that the outfielder should be recalled, but manager Ozzie Guillen likes his team as it is.

"I think, right now, we're OK," Guillen said. "If we're going to call him up, we have to wait for the right time to call him up.  [Williams and I] have talked about [bringing him up], but we left the conversation right there. We [also] talked about [not] panicking."

One, I like that without the bracketed text, Guillen's quote reads, "We talked about panicking."

Secondly, I wonder if Guillen looks at Owens and sees the groin-afflicted Scott Podsednik.  He didn't exactly open his arms when Pods returned to the lineup late last year, and with Brian Anderson producing reasonably well, there's no easy place to slot Owens except as pinch-runner.

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When people propose adding Owens to the mix, they never explain how speed translates into runs, just that it does.  I for one, would like to know how Owens would help his teammates hit better, as that's why the offense is dysfunctional.

Even though the Sox managed to score two runs in such situations, it doesn't make up for going 0-for-5 with a runner on third Thursday.  If Harris steps toward third base instead of first on the pivot, Uribe never has his takeout slide, Hall grounds into a 5-4-3 double play, and the Sox end up emptyhanded once again.

Since the suspended game against Baltimore, two things to know about the Sox:
  • 2-for-14 with a runner on third and fewer than two outs, with zero sacrifice flies.
  • 4-for-26 in all situations where there's a runner on third.
Strikeouts aren't the culprit.  The Sox have whiffed only twice in the 14 at-bats with one or zero outs.  No, the problem has been the number of grounders too routine and pop-ups too weak to get the runner home.  Unless Ozzie wants to call the squeeze play far more often, those two types of batted balls are the two biggest parts of the Owens arsenal.

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Minor league roundup:
  • Scranton-Wilkes/Barre 5, Charlotte 4 (11 innings)
    • Mike MacDougal looked MacDougalish in Charlotte, losing the game in the 11th by walking four batters.  He walked the first two, they stole bases, he intentionally walked a third, and the fourth ended the game.
    • Charlie Haeger pitched well -- 7 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
    • Dewayne Wise doubled, tripled and drove in one; Brad Eldred and Josh Fields replacement Gookie Dawkins also had two hits.
    • Jason Bourgeois went 1-for-4 with a walk but was caught stealing; Jerry Owens went 0-for-4 with a walk.
  • Winston-Salem 0, Salem 0 (Susp. 6th)
    • Matt Long threw six shutout innings, scattering six hits, walking one and striking out three.
    • Francisco Hernandez had Winston-Salem's lone hit.
  • Kannapolis 4, Lakewood 3
    • Logan Johnson and and Danny Jordan each had three-hit games.
    • Jose Martinez went 2-for-3 with a walk, run and RBI.
    • Anthony Carter struck out seven over five innings, allowing three runs (two earned) on four hits and two walks.
    • Hector Santiago (2 IP), Santo Luis (1 IP) and Henry Mabee (1 IP) held Lakewood scoreless the rest of the way.
  • Birmingham vs. Montgomery PPD

Comments

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 7:19 AM by Doctor Lingerie
I hereby nominate Gookie Dawkins as "Best Previously Undiscovered Ancillary Character Name on Welcome Back Kotter."

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 7:54 AM by Salty Dog
Isn't this what Uribe always does? He possesses a reliable glove, he'll look the worst out of everybody on offense (generally speaking, not specific to this season), but then he'll go on some sort of micro-tear where for a few days (up to a week) he'll look like he's capable of carrying the team on his shoulders with hitting and hustle. After that short flurry activity, however, he goes back to being the same old Uribe and isn't heard from offensively for the rest of the season. I've always liked Uribe and I'm not sitting here hoping he'll be cut, but I can't get too excited about these Uribe-tastic moments because I know the other show will eventually drop.

But as long as his glove still works, it's hard for me to get too worked up about his failures at the plate.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 7:55 AM by Salty Dog
"Shoe" not "show". Damnit, I really hate it when I do that.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 9:26 AM by ballsdeep
Stick a fork in Mike MacDougal, if you haven't already.

Charlie Haegar strikes me as a AAAA player. Does well in Triple A, not so well in MLB. He's going to be 25 years young in September, so the timeline for being considered a "prospect" is starting to run out.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 9:37 AM by El Duque's Raft
The only two reasons I've heard how Owens will lead to more runs is his speed will distract the pitchers and Scott Podsednik was the leadoff hitter in '05. The second argument is what annoys me the most about Chicago fans. Just because it works one time, they think that's how it done every time. Like the Bears needing a dominating defense to win a Super Bowl neglecting the fact that having a top 10 offense will give you just as good of a chance. As for him distracting the pitchers, that is up for debate. I know how Hawk and DJ feel about it but I find it hard to believe that any of the outcomes against the soft tossing pitchers would be different with Owens going 1-for-4 and being stranded on second.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 11:04 AM by soxfan1
Last I saw, Owens was batting .254 @ AAA Charlotte. That translates to what (???) at the major league level. Leave him in the minors. I saw enough of him last year to know he will be nothing more than a fringe player in The Show. I like Jim's idea of giving Ramirez some more pt. Let's see what that energy can translate to!!

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 12:06 PM by Jim Margalus
Fun fact: Gookie's first name is Travis. Which is probably why he has the nickname, because if he were Travis Dawkins, I'd assume 10 out of 10 times he's a white guy. Though it'd be fun to see Travis Dawkins and Jason Bourgeois in the same infield in that respect.

"'Shoe' not 'show'. Damnit, I really hate it when I do that."

It's Reverse Ed Sullivan Syndrome.

"Charlie Haegar strikes me as a AAAA player. Does well in Triple A, not so well in MLB. He's going to be 25 years young in September, so the timeline for being considered a "prospect" is starting to run out."

Not for a knuckleballer. It takes years to perfect the pitch, and if they do pan out, they're far more valuable than a run-of-the-mill, Kris Honel-like guy.

And there was a piece about how "distracting the runners" is BS, but I can't find it.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 12:19 PM by Florida Jim
Ozzie says "when I see plays like that -- clean, play the game the way they should be playing -- it's something we're missing.''
He is the Manager if anything is missing it is his job to correct it, isn't it? He seems to think someone other than he will do something to correct the deficiencies Ozzie and all of us see, Ozzie it is you who must talking to each player about what you want from him. If they cannot do that teach them yourself or through your coaches, sit them until they show they will listen to you or send them down or elsewhere and get people who both know, and can do , what you want.
From Ozzie's repeated comments it appears he expects some miracle to place and his players both know what to do and can do what he wants without much day-by-training and reinforcinment. The Twins reinforce their wants and demands of the players throughout their prganization while the Sox appear not to communicate Ozzie/KW, Ozzie/players/ KW/minor league system. Am I wrong on this?

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 1:27 PM by ballsdeep
In order to "distract pitchers", you'd better get on base first.

Owens is all things Podsednik, and as much as I'd prefer seeing Swisher in RF or at first, the Podsednik road is one I'd rather not go down again.

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 4:08 PM by Jim Margalus
Thanks for not pointing out how I said "distracting the runners" instead of "distracting the pitchers."

# re: And he could've been gone

Friday, May 09, 2008 8:24 PM by biganutz
The Mariners recently own the Sox in Seattle. White Sox hitters know Carlos Silva, and they own him. If Silva dominates tonight it will show the fans that the team is inconsistent. Prediction; White Sox 7, Mariners 4.

PICKS TO CLICK: Jim Thome

# re: And he could've been gone

Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:31 AM by soxfan1
I have the same feeling that FL Jim has regarding Ozzie. I think he says all these things to the press and then expects that his players will hear about them. Can you see him confronting Cabrera or Uribe about poor play?? I can't, maybe a rookie but not a veteran. I think Ozzie tries to be all things to all of the players, mostly a nice guy who tries to keep them loose with his antics. He'll talk a tough game without following through most of the time.

# re: And he could've been gone

Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:23 AM by Jim Margalus
Ozzie has called out Uribe numerous times for his performance and weight issues. Nobody has been ripped openly more than Uribe -- not even BA. I'm not getting why you keep thinking he's the beneficiary of some sort of favoritism. He had his position taken away from him in the offseason, and he's only getting playing time because every other possibility at second has been far worse.

He probably won't say anything bad about Cabrera, but then again, every manager Cabrera has says that he puts all the necessary work in and then some. It's not going to play well in any clubhouse if you take people to task for results only.

But there's not a whole lot of point in delving deep into what Ozzie says. He talks tough, he talks weak, he talks funny, he talks depressed. He doesn't have any thought filter.

# re: And he could've been gone

Monday, May 12, 2008 10:42 AM by soxfan1
Ozzie has ripped Uribe publicly, but I still doubt that he talks to him privately about poor play. Kenny took away his position, not Ozzie, & Uribe was in the right place at the right time when it came to 2nd base.
My point is that Ozzie talks big but his actions come up short when it comes to all of his veterans.