First things first, to follow up on
our Torii Hunter discussion, I asked Twins blogger and friend of the site
Stick and Ball Guy for his opinion of Hunter's worth. He gave me a helluva response:
I've
long advocated that the Twins not pursue Hunter in free agency, even
before it became apparent that he'd probably command a 5 or 6 year deal
at about $15 million per. Two years ago, this was a no-brainer -- you
let Hunter walk. Over the last season and a half, though, it's a
little easier to be lulled into the idea of breaking the bank for
Hunter. I wouldn't do it.
Hunter's positives are apparent. He
has been an excellent defender and rightfully deserved most of the Gold
Gloves he's gotten. He is fearless, he's got a good arm, and he
catches balls that he gets to. He's made a ton of highlight reel
catches. At the plate, he's got good power and his numbers are pretty
good (but not great as I will show below) for a center fielder. He'll
almost certainly deliver 25+ home runs for several years, providing he
stays healthy. He's not too patient at the plate, but you have to live
with that. When Hunter isn't aggressive at the plate, he suffers.
He's hacktastic. That's who he is, and you can't change him, nor do
you want to. He had a great start in 2007 and he said a bunch of crap
(Torii talks out of his behind a lot) about being more patient and more
selective. But, he had a near career low in pitches per plate
appearance and walked just 40 times, and just 30 unintentionally, in
650 plate appearances. He was swinging at everything. That's what he
does best.
While he's been a great defender in the past, I'm not
so sure that's the case any more. According to the Hardball Times, his
Zone Rating
is in the lower half
of AL center fielders -- and the Metrodome is not spacious like, say,
Comerica Park. In fact, I've seen Hunter repeatedly beaten on balls in
Detroit. Granderson is covering a lot more ground than Hunter does.
Furthermore, I'm not all that impressed with Hunter's decision making
ability. In 2006, he was playing through a stress fracture in his foot
and it's my contention that he was the worst center fielder in the
American League defensively. The problem wasn't just that he couldn't
get to balls, it was that he couldn't admit that he couldn't get to
balls. As a result, he took a lot of incredibly bad angles on balls
that resulted in singles turning into extra base hits. If you recall,
he made a ridiculous attempt in game 2 in the ALDS on a ball that
should have been a single and he misplayed it into an inside-the-park
home run. That play was shocking to the baseball world in general, but
not to those paying attention closely. Torii was simply not adjusting
to his diminished capacity.
Like I said above, Hunter is a
hacker. I really don't think he can approach hitting any other way.
When he's tried to be patient, he's foundered. When he's just hacked,
he's hit a lot better. As he gets older, I don't see him compensating
for his inevitable decline in quickness at the plate. Barry Bonds (all
possible "enhancements" aside) didn't succeed by hacking, he's got the
best eye in baseball. By contrast, noted hacker Sammy Sosa aged
remarkably quickly (again, all possible "enhancements" aside). Torii
is more Sammy than Barry, although he's not as good as either. Not by
a long stretch. In fact, I mentioned that he was pretty good for an
up-the-middle defender, but after 2002, when he had the 2nd best VORP
in the AL for centerfielders, he's been 11th, 6th, 5th, 6th, and 5th in
the same group. That hardly screams superstar. And if his defense
really is middle of the pack now, well...
Plus, there is his
mouth. Widely regarded to be one of the good guys, he's nevertheless
taken his shots at teammates. In 2005, he called out both Joe Mauer
and Justin Morneau in the paper, questioning his toughness. In
September 2005, while on the DL he visited the clubhouse and took a
swing at Morneau. Again this year, he questioned Mauer's toughness in
the newspaper. He gets kid gloves treatment in the Minneapolis press,
but I think if he gets to a big market, especially, say, New York, he's
got the potential to turn into Bobby-Bonilla-with-the-Mets. Well,
maybe not that bad, but I'm pretty sure that there are more than a few
quality players in the Twins clubhouse that might have a going away
party for Torii -- and not invite him. And future collisions at the
plate between Hunter and Mr. Mauer might result in a shin guard to the
groin.
I certainly recognize that Hunter's a very good player,
and I'm being tough. But, somebody's about to pay him $90 million.
I'd never do it and the Twins will be idiots to hand him that kind of
money, given the other talent on this club that is younger and better
and needs to get paid. On a big club with a lot of money, he'll be a
nice piece for probably a couple of years. But, I don't think he'll
age well and by the end of the contract, he could be an albatross.
Well, that just about settles that.
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The Milwaukee Brewers will be in contact with Curt Schilling, which has a couple implications for the White Sox.
The first -- that if Doug Melvin can lure Schilling to Wisconsin somehow, there goes
a trade possibility centering on Jon Garland for Bill Hall.
Schilling posted better numbers than
Garland last year, albeit in 57 fewer innings, so it's just about a draw projecting to 2008. Still, Garland will cost talent to acquire him, plus a large chunk of change to pay him. Schilling only costs money.
On the other hand, if Schilling decides to go elsewhere, this may tip Melvin's hand a little. Here's my train of thought:
- Schilling's big strikeout days are behind him.
- Garland also relies on his defense, although more so.
- Milwaukee has one of the worst defenses in the league.
- Even so, Melvin is still pursuing Schilling.
- Then maybe he'd go for Garland.
- Garland's only around for a year, though.
- Then again, Schilling's only negotiating one-year deals.
- Hey now...
Schilling made $13 million in 2007, and he'll probably see that number come down a bit. Garland will make $12 million, although Melvin would be sending some salary back to Chicago in any trade. This should be a situation worth monitoring.
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A few links:
*Carl Skanberg has posted
a new Smells Like Mascot episode. Brian Anderson's jawline has to be a cartoonist's dream.
*Scott Merkin gives
an update on Juan Uribe's option situation. If you're a fan of Kannapolis' prospects last year, I'd suggest you skip the first of the minor sections.
*The Cheat made me aware of
an interesting SoxTalk thread on Sox rookie ball teams by a guy who may or may not work for the organization. If he does work for the Sox, he might not be there much longer.
*A video at MiLB.com gives
a surface look at the Sox prospects in the Arizona Fall League. There's not much to hear, but it gives a quick look at Jack Egbert, Fernando Hernandez and Chris Getz, for whom I have no
video footage... yet.
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And speaking of the AFL, it's time for another quick Friday winter ball update:
Arizona Fall League- Chris Getz: 9-for-34, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 6 BB, 4 K, 2/3 SB
- Ryan Sweeney: 10-for-47, 0 XBH, 4 RBI, 8 BB, 15 K, 2/3 SB
- Donny Lucy: 3-for-24, 0 XBH, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 9 K, 1/1 SB
- Jack Egbert: 10.1 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, 7 BB, 8 K
- Adam Russell: 12 IP, 9 H, 2 ER, 6 BB, 10 K
- Dewon Day: 9 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 10 K
- Fernando Hernandez Jr.: 8.2 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 8 K
Mexican League- Jason Bourgeois: .306/.379/.376 (85 AB), 4 2B, 1 3B, 9 BB, 11 K, 9/10 SB
- Heath Phillips: 3.13 ERA, 23.2 IP, 24 H, 9 BB, 23 K
Dominican League- Oneli Perez: 4.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K
Venezuelan League
- Wiki Gonzalez: 10-for-40, 4 2B, 2 HR, 7 RBI, 3 BB, 4 K
- Carlos Vasquez: 4 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
Hawaiian League- Kanekoa Texeira: 5 IP, 5 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
A couple developments worth noting:
No. 1: It's interesting to note the opposite directions Sox hitters and pitchers are taking in the AFL. Compare their numbers to
last week's stats, and here's what we have:
- Getz, Sweeney and Lucy: 4-for-26, 0 XBH, 5 BB, 8 K
- Egbert, Russell, Day and Hernandez: 13 IP, 12 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 13 K
No. 2: Gonzalez and Bourgeois no longer belong on this list, technically, as they're among
33 White Sox minor-league free agents. I'll probably still keep tabs on Bourgeois. Meanwhile, the Sox roster purged perpetual prospects Corwin Malone and Casey Rogowski, as well as the other Josh Fields.
Only one team has more minor-league free agents -- the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Baltimore Orioles and Philadelphia Phillies also have 33, and the former two are among the worst in developing talent.