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the robert boyle who went 0-for-4 on oscar night, right?… although i’m sure ozzie would argue just as vehemently for the robert boyle remembered as ‘the father of modern chemistry.’
Posted by willardmarshall | August 5, 2010, 7:16 amHaaaaaaaaaa. That is really funny. I was talking about the chemist (I had to look up the former), but both work beautifully. Serendipity!
Posted by Jim Margalus | August 5, 2010, 9:21 pmI like Jackson’s demeanor – he didn’t seem to get frustrated when things didn’t go our way. If the Sox were able to complete a couple of tough double plays last nights game would have been a piece of cake. Lucky or good on Cabrera’s fly out? Maybe, but I’ll take it.
Posted by phastphil | August 5, 2010, 9:09 amAgreed he got lucky on a couple of pitches, esp. the Cabrera AB that Jim pointed out. However, I’m encouraged by the strike ratio (72%), groundball ratio (63%) and K/BB of 6.
I had a huge issue with the Alexei 2nd base call which turned out to be a PK error. I didn’t think he touched the bag. However, the trend of umpires giving the benefit of the doubt when the SS or 2B is “in the vicinity” of the base creates a situation like this. If they weren’t so lax with these calls most of the time, perhaps Alexei wouldn’t have even tried the relay to first. Instead, he might have gotten his balance and then stepped on 2nd.
Last night enforced why I’ve never liked that umps typically “give” that call.
Posted by David | August 5, 2010, 9:49 amAnyway I draw it up, at the time of the trade this is still the 2nd worst trade in KW history behind the Swisher for betemit and garbage.
Edwin Jackson had a great stat line, however he wasnt really impressive at all. Very hittable, hanging his slider, no real third pitch and a fastball that is hard but pretty damn straight. Why is this guy a better pitcher then Danny Wright? (ok some exaggeration but… im worried)
Mark Kotsay and his 15% line drive rate can suck my balls, this guy sucks. And all the manager and teammate support in the world cant change that. Is kenny williams the only guy with his damn head on straight, we have nothing from the left side right now, AJ has lost it, Kotsay is garbage, with guys on its up to Vizquel and freaking Pierre to drive in runners from the left side, no wonder the sox were all over dunn and are kicking the tires on carlos delgado
Posted by knoxfire30 | August 5, 2010, 9:51 amNo need to worry about lefties actually producing, Teahen will be back soon. Problem solved!
Posted by mechanicalturk | August 5, 2010, 10:10 ami dont know if i should laugh or cry at that post
Posted by knoxfire30 | August 5, 2010, 10:21 amI still like the trade for Edwin!! If you ignore the money side, it’s a great deal that may help us win the division in 2010 & 2011. We will also be tougher in the playoffs. Hey it’s only money!!
Posted by soxfan1 | August 5, 2010, 11:02 amIgnoring the money is probably one of the single worst things an MLB front office can do.
Posted by bigfun | August 5, 2010, 12:22 pmThe Sox are a big-market team and actually spend like they are.
The Sox have what,the 6th or 7th highest payroll in baseball?
Show me one other team in the top 8 that isn’t overpaying for someone, or paying for dead weight on their roster.
Obviously, we’d all like to see more efficient use of payroll resources. But the Sox spend enough where they can afford to overpay.
Posted by vince | August 5, 2010, 1:02 pmYes, the Sox have done a better job than some of their payroll peers (Mets, Cubs) at this. But the 21st, 27th, and 29th payroll teams all have a better chance of making the playoffs than the White Sox do this year. Those teams are overpaying for almost no one right now.
If the Sox were a bit more efficient in their roster construction over the past several years, they would be on pace for a 100+ season and cruising to an easy ALC win.
So can the Sox “afford” to overpay? I guess so, in the sense that they can do it and maybe still make the playoffs. But it is tangibly, measurably reducing their ability to do so.
Posted by bigfun | August 5, 2010, 2:20 pmThe problem is, budgetary concerns have been cited as an issue when it comes to signing players that could help. They may be a big market club, but they’ve spent themselves into corners.
Posted by Jim Margalus | August 5, 2010, 4:17 pmLittle room for criticism on this trade. Yes we lost a pitching prospect but we gained a young proven major league pitcher. Edwin Jackson was an All Star last season with a pennant race Tigers team, pitched a no hitter this season, and was part of a successful Tampa pitching rotation on the 08 World Series team. Most impressive to see him pitch out of jams last night, in high pressure situations, in the middle of a pennant race, with lots of doubt cast over him because of his numbers up to the game last night. This guy with all this pressure could have imploded like Alex Rios did when he came over last year. Instead, he was electric when he needed to be. That spark is contagious and this Sox team really needed to feel it from their 5 guy in the rotation. I liked Danny Hudson but talk about a kid who feared major league hitters. Edwin looked fearless and really challenged hitters. He may be on the verge of surge himself.
Posted by soxicano | August 5, 2010, 11:59 amThat actually leaves quite a lot of room for criticism.
Posted by bigfun | August 5, 2010, 12:28 pmif by proven, you mean proven to be bad at pitching then yes we acquired a proven starter
Posted by knoxfire30 | August 5, 2010, 12:57 pmOh for God’s sake, Knox…
I have my own reservations about this trade, but let’s not get carried away. The kid (just 26) has some nice tools and has had some stretches of impressive success. No doubt the jury is still out and the 8 million in 2011 MIGHT end up being a bit of an over-pay, but take a deep breath.
“Proven to be bad at pitching”!?!? Take it back!!!!
Posted by dudeman | August 5, 2010, 4:55 pm“Pitched a no hitter this season”
I watched that entire game. He didn’t even look good at all. 8 walks and 150 pitches makes that one of (if not) the worst no-hitter of all time.
Oh, and then there’s all those other times he was terrible.
I’m down to wait and see, though. Kenny has been shrewd and impossibly brilliant about trading young pitchers, and Edwin’s got some good heat. Loving that schedule.
Oh, and also, MARK KOTSAY BITCHES!!!!
Posted by marshlands | August 5, 2010, 4:24 pmMy favorite thing about Jackson’s no-hitter: his FIP went up thanks to it.
Posted by JJ | August 5, 2010, 11:25 pmSox are looking at Degaldo? Didn’t want Thome. Wouldn’t pay for Damon. Now we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel with a guy who’s been hurt and out of baseball for over a year! Hope it’s just a rumor. We may as well leave Kotsay in there.
Today has to be the end for Jenks as the closer. How many more times does this have to happen? Raburn??? Give me a break Bobby.
Posted by ricksch | August 5, 2010, 5:17 pmTalking Jenks in another forum, and we may have solved the mystery. He’s a vampire.
Night:
25G, 6R, 2.28 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 3.38 K/BB
Hitters: 218/284/287 (572 OPS)
Day:
18G, 16R, 8.04 ERA, 1.92 WHIP, 2.75 K/BB
Hitters: 324/395/441 (836 OPS)
(2010 numbers from BR)
Posted by evenyoudorn | August 5, 2010, 5:44 pmHaha. Tony Pena has a 2 K/BB during the day and a .87 at night. I can feel a platoon coming on…
Posted by bigfun | August 5, 2010, 6:14 pm